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White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

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Redress said:
Shoulda read the thread Hugh. Show me where Buffett mentioned his secretary(hint: no one has and I cannot find it either). So, the second sentence of your argument has already failed a basic fact check. ALso, you do not seem to understand what Buffett is actually saying, which is about effective tax rates. Might look into that.
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Receptionist/secretary, janitor/cleaning lady

Buffett blasts system that lets him pay less tax than secretary - Times Online

Speaking at a $4,600-a-seat fundraiser in New York for Senator Hillary Clinton, Mr Buffett, who is worth an estimated $52 billion (£26 billion), said: “The 400 of us [here] pay a lower part of our income in taxes than our receptionists do, or our cleaning ladies, for that matter. If you’re in the luckiest 1 per cent of humanity, you owe it to the rest of humanity to think about the other 99 per cent.”
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Taxing people on the grounds of morality - gotta love it!
 
TurtleDude said:
I oppose majority rule when it comes to taxes. the progressive income tax and death taxes exist only because net tax consumers have the same votes as tax payers
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You could move to a different country, couldn't you?:mrgreen:
 
TurtleDude said:
Buffett blasts system that lets him pay less tax than secretary - Times Online

Mr Buffett said that he was taxed at 17.7 per cent on the $46 million he made last year, without trying to avoid paying higher taxes, while his secretary, who earned $60,000, was taxed at 30 per cent.

again that is a lie because someone in the 60K range is in the 25% marginal rate.

and her overall tax rate is far far lower than 25%

the only way he can be correct is that she pays 25% on her next dollar and he 18% but that is because he has a DIFFERENT TYPE OF INCOME

his LIKE INCOME-salary is taxed much higher than hers
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You realize that is from 2007? Hint: it's not 2007 now.
 
Redress said:
Why do cons go to such great length to use stupid rhetoric instead of trying to have rational discussions?...
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because insults, lies, and half-truths are more fun that honest, intelligent, respectful, & logical debate.

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TurtleDude said:
I oppose majority rule when it comes to taxes. the progressive income tax and death taxes exist only because net tax consumers have the same votes as tax payers
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So right and wrong matters, but only when it affects you and you want to have your way. By the way, there is no tax in the tax code knows as a death tax, and I am sure you can show how to identify a tax payer vs a tax consumer that is actually accurate. Do keep up with the rhetoric and hyperbole though, it is amusing.
 
Redress said:
So right and wrong matters, but only when it affects you and you want to have your way. By the way, there is no tax in the tax code knows as a death tax, and I am sure you can show how to identify a tax payer vs a tax consumer that is actually accurate. Do keep up with the rhetoric and hyperbole though, it is amusing.
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millions of people call it a death tax as does the IRS when it comes to state death taxes
 
TurtleDude said:
then people like you would starve to death
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More likely they would just rob people like you. It would be easy since you don't want to pay taxes, no police, no courts, no problem.
 
Redress said:
More likely they would just rob people like you. It would be easy since you don't want to pay taxes, no police, no courts, no problem.
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I'd be happy to oblige them. I pay taxes for what is legitimate-that includes police and executioners. But PB robbing me would be fun. and a messy clean up for my maid
 
TurtleDude said:
I'd be happy to oblige them. I pay taxes for what is legitimate-that includes police and executioners. But PB robbing me would be fun. and a messy clean up for my maid
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Unfortunately for you, you do not get to make that decision. Bummer....
 
Redress said:
More likely they would just rob people like you. It would be easy since you don't want to pay taxes, no police, no courts, no problem.
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There is a big difference between paying minimal taxes to run police and courts, and paying the majority of your income to run a government that has it hand in everything and deal with people like you that want everyone else to pay for what you want.
 
Redress said:
Unfortunately for you, you do not get to make that decision. Bummer....
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true but its not a legitimate argument based on what I have said
 
Henrin said:
There is a big difference between paying minimal taxes to run police and courts, and paying the majority of your income to run a government that has it hand in everything and deal with people like you that want everyone else to pay for what you want.
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sadly this board crawls with those who believe they are entitled to the wealth of others and that they are entitled to unlimited government services paid for by others
 
pbrauer said:
I thought you voted for Bush, am I wrong? I'm happy I voted for Obama, if McCain were elected we would probably have bomb, bomb, bombed Iran by now.
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As opposed to Libya?
 
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