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White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

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TurtleDude said:
parasites cost me money. rich heirs do not. I don't praise heirs but they don't cost me
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the "parasites" are the ones who do the hard labor that creates the wealth that makes the rich....rich.

without the "parasites", there would be no wealthy people in the USA.
 
Smokified said:
Why don't you go ahead and tell us what the population was in the late 1960s compared to what it is now. And then when you are done with that, you should also fill us all in on the percentage of immigrants and illegal immigrants there are now in the US compared to the late 1960's. I bet you find an answer to our economic woes in there somewhere, and it has nothing to do with shaking down rich people I gurantee it.
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What on earth do either of those have to do with the fact that we have a far less progressive tax system now than we had between WWII and the late 1960s (or the the early 1980s for that matter)? Were Truman and Eisenhower EuroSocialists?
 
Smokified said:
So what you are saying then is that if your rich mother dies, that the rest of the world should get everything that she worked for? You are sitting on the fence arguing one point from one side and another point from the other side. There are people that work hard, and there are people that inherit from people that work hard. If I want to give what I earn to my children that is my right and it is not your right to make things difficult for them simply because you are jealous.
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Tell me. Exactly what fence am I sitting on?
 
AdamT said:
What a stupidly weak response. That fact that someone's parents or grandparents were industrious does not give them a right to unearned income.
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How does it give you a greater right

you are just spewing envious nonsense
 
TurtleDude said:
those who want to take others' wealth go to great lengths to justify it. bottom line you are just envious that others had more industrious parents than you do

do you have any children Adam?
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You have no idea how industrious my parents and you are trying to make this personal because you don't have a logical argument.
 
Thunder said:
the "parasites" are the ones who do the hard labor that creates the wealth that makes the rich....rich.

without the "parasites", there would be no wealthy people in the USA.
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wrong, the parasites are those who demand others pay their way
 
TurtleDude said:
How does it give you a greater right

you are just spewing envious nonsense
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Get over the envy thing, Turtle. I'm quite comfortable and certainly have no reason to envy anyone, let alone you.
 
AdamT said:
You have no idea how industrious my parents and you are trying to make this personal because you don't have a logical argument.
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You call heirs parasites and you spew this crap. You don't have a logical argument. If I earn something and I choose to give it to someone your right to whine about that is nonexistent
 
AdamT said:
Get over the envy thing, Turtle. I'm quite comfortable and certainly have no reason to envy anyone, let alone you.
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Of course you deny it but the fact is when you start spewing nonsense about heirs wallows in envy


why are you so upset that others inherit wealth
 
AdamT said:
Now that's strange. I thought you had a problem with people who are "subsidized" complaining? You mean to say that we should castigate people who receive assistance to maintain a poverty-level income, but praise those who receive unearned millions? What's the logic behind that?
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Who are you to say it was unearned? Where did it come from? Did it just fall out of the sky? Did taxpayers setup a fund to support this person? No.
 
Antiderivative said:
Taxing poor people and the elderly is not a valid solution in order to bring in more revenue. Only 1% of nontaxpaying households are nonelderly with incomes over $20,000. Most people who pay no federal income are poor and old. However, there are a few exceptions, like the 1,500 millionaires who didn't pay any income taxes in 2009.
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Invalid for whom? How much money are you going to get from those evil rich people? The point remains we have a spending problem not a revenue problem and until you understand that all the rhetoric about the rich not paying their fair share defies reality and gives credence then to the liberal argument that 47% of the income earners paying ZERO is their fair share. Make sense to you?
 
AdamT said:
From the horses mouth....
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the stuff you post appear to come from another source=perhaps 8 feet south?:lamo:lamo
 
TurtleDude said:
You call heirs parasites and you spew this crap. You don't have a logical argument. If I earn something and I choose to give it to someone your right to whine about that is nonexistent
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Heirs are parasites, by definition. They are living off the body of their host (or former host).
 
TurtleDude said:
your right to whine about that is nonexistent
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Again? What country are you in? You may not agree with the opinion of others, but to say they have no right to express that opinion?
 
vvx said:
That's how I'd like it to be. So, I'm going to choose to make my money by being born to a billionaire. It is my choice, after all, how I make my money.
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SO you feel that when a billionarie dies they should just hand you their money? Some people have and some people don't. Get over it.
 
Smokified said:
Who are you to say it was unearned? Where did it come from? Did it just fall out of the sky? Did taxpayers setup a fund to support this person? No.
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It is INHERITED. By definition it is unearned.
 
Thunder said:
the "parasites" are the ones who do the hard labor that creates the wealth that makes the rich....rich.

without the "parasites", there would be no wealthy people in the USA.
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Well you come up with your own idea and start a company that becomes rich and see if you still have the same attitude then. Grow up.
 
AdamT said:
Heirs are parasites, by definition. They are living off the body of their host (or former host).
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wrong. a parasite is taking from another without permission

using your idiotic logic children are parasites of those birthed them
 
TurtleDude said:
wrong. a parasite is taking from another without permission

using your idiotic logic children are parasites of those birthed them
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I don't see anything about permission in the defintion of parasite. Another flailing miss.
 
vvx said:
Again? What country are you in? You may not agree with the opinion of others, but to say they have no right to express that opinion?
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I should have said his whine has no merit or relevance
 
AdamT said:
I don't see anything about permission in the defintion of parasite. Another flailing miss.
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jealous much?

when you rant about heirs as you do its obvious you are upset that others have more industrious parents

are your children parasites?
 
TurtleDude said:
wrong. a parasite is taking from another without permission

using your idiotic logic children are parasites of those birthed them
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You are ignoring the key factor here: children who inherit money from parents are not successful by virtue of that fact, they have not achieved by virtue of that fact,nor have they have no excelled by virtue of that fact, they did not earn anything. They were simply lucky by the accident of birth.
 
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