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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    My take on a fair assessment of blame is...bush spent like a trooper..created the biggest social program since SS with prescription drug program which was created to protect rich Pharma and thier pricing...which is sell it to the rest of the world for half price or less and bury americans in horrific prices.
    There was a revolt starting over being allowed to buy drugs from canada at half the price and mexico for 5cts on a dollar...bush was ready to pass a law to ban buying from canada and he was lambasted...so up pops the drug giveaway program with the CLAUSE govt cannot negotiate lower prices from the drug companies.....and bush gave away the first 700 billion....he got this started and obama followed up with bad decisions...
    Ok its both their faults....now what are we going to do about it...aside from insisting on giving the rich and corps huge tax cuts and giving away more billions in stimulus....
    What you are missing is that the Democrat alternative was much, much more expensive as they wanted more spending on Medicare Part D than they ended up getting. Bush gets the blame but many ignore the debate at the time. The further away from the time of that debate the more inaccurate the information becomes.

    What we are going to do about it is fire Obama and put some confidence back into the U.S. economy. The economic conditions were worse in the 81-82 than they are now due to the high interest rates, high inflation on top of rising unemployment. Demonization of individual wealthcare and promotion of class warfare benefits no one and makes the situation worse.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    1) the tea party opposes the government taking more taxes from anyone

    2) the tea party opposes wasteful government spending-much of which we could eliminate without compromising needed or necessary services

    3) taxes being raised on the "rich" will do nothing to alleviate the problems you speak of

    No im sorry they do not advocate not raising taxs for everyone...they advocate not raising taxs on the richest americans and corporations and INSIST everyone else pays more....thats exactly what ryans plan was turtle...now is just the worst time to be tieing the country in knots and making it impotent while more and more people have nothing and losing everything.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    How does anyone inherit what they helped create?
    how many votes did he make that created the problems that you attribute to him?
    The haggardness of poverty is everywhere seen contrasted with the sleekness of wealth, the exhorted labor of some compensating for the idleness of others, wretched hovels by the side of stately colonnades, the rags of indigence blended with the ensigns of opulence; in a word, the most useless profusion in the midst of the most urgent wants.Jean-Baptiste Say

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    how many votes did he make that created the problems that you attribute to him?
    He voted for the 2009 budget, he voted for TARP, and then signed the stimulus package that did nothing to help the economy. His voting record during the 2007-2008 Democrat control of Congress is in the Congressional record but he voted almost 100% for the Democrat programs those years and that is what led to the recession

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What you are missing is that the Democrat alternative was much, much more expensive as they wanted more spending on Medicare Part D than they ended up getting. Bush gets the blame but many ignore the debate at the time.
    You keep saying this, but you never have shown this to be true. The Democrats wanted Medicare to be able to bargain with the drug companies just like the Veteran's administration does. But the Bush administration refused to allow this to happen. Can you say crony capitalism???


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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    He voted for the 2009 budget, he voted for TARP, and then signed the stimulus package that did nothing to help the economy. His voting record during the 2007-2008 Democrat control of Congress is in the Congressional record but he voted almost 100% for the Democrat programs those years and that is what led to the recession

    Itís a hoot watching you spin. bush had twelve vetoes during his two terms, its not like he didnít know where he had the veto stamp stashed.
    The haggardness of poverty is everywhere seen contrasted with the sleekness of wealth, the exhorted labor of some compensating for the idleness of others, wretched hovels by the side of stately colonnades, the rags of indigence blended with the ensigns of opulence; in a word, the most useless profusion in the midst of the most urgent wants.Jean-Baptiste Say

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    You keep saying this, but you never have shown this to be true. The Democrats wanted Medicare to be able to bargain with the drug companies just like the Veteran's administration does. But the Bush administration refused to allow this to happen. Can you say crony capitalism???
    It is foolish to relive this but if you must go back and Read what Kennedy was pushing and then get back to me.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    It’s a hoot watching you spin. bush had twelve vetoes during his two terms, its not like he didn’t know where he had the veto stamp stashed.
    That wasn't the question you asked and I did answer your question. You don't like the answer, tough! Obama is responsible for 4 trillion dollars added to the debt in 3 years and inherited nothing that he didn't help create.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    It is foolish to relive this but if you must go back and Read what Kennedy was pushing and then get back to me.
    I'm you could summarize in 25 words or less, Con.


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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I'm you could summarize in 25 words or less, Con.
    I will be happy to do so when you start a thread on that topic. The Medicare Part D bill has nothing to do with this thread topic but is another attempt on your part to divert the thread.

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