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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Born Free Quote: "You seem a little put out. And rightfully so, under Obama the national debt has grown higher and faster than any president before him. By the end of his only term he will have added to the national debt in just four yrs 6 trillion dollars. I don't see the rich stealing but I do see government stealing from the people with trillion dollar failed stimulus and the government funding the likes of bankrupt Solyndra with 535 million of tax payer money, there is more waste and fraud in our government run agencies that are unequaled. Obama said there was 500 billion of waste and fraud in Medicare alone. So who should be fired. I'll tell you, Obama."

    I don't think it would cost a trillion like Obama's failed stimulus, nor do I think it would cost 500 billion that Obama said is spent on waste and fraud in Medicare alone. Now just imagine if there is 500 billion of waste and fraud in just Medicare alone how much would there be when you add up all of governments waste and fraud. This is your government stealing from the people, and Obama is the president of this government stealing peoples money.
    You say the stimulus failed, but the non partisan CBO says it didn't. Where is you data to show it failed?? BTW, as for Obama being fired... He will gracefully leave office Jan 20, 2017 and that fact burns conservatives asses.


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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    He’s still in the process of fixing the inherited problem; he inherited a bigger problem then he thought.
    How does anyone inherit what they helped create?

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    You say the stimulus failed, but the non partisan CBO says it didn't. Where is you data to show it failed?? BTW, as for Obama being fired... He will gracefully leave office Jan 20, 2017 and that fact burns conservatives asses.
    the non partisan CBO takes data that the Administration gives them and gives a non partisan report. They are forced by law to take the assumptions given and not change them. If the assumptions are wrong then the projections are wrong and that is what happened with the stimulus. You use the CBO when you believe it supports your point of view but ignore it when it doesn't like with healthcare and the debt. Let me know the non partisan site like BLS that calculates and quantifies "saved jobs?"

    Not sure why someone of your intelligence continues to support Obama and the lies from this Administration but that isn't doing your credibility any good.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

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    What caused the shortfall in FIT, Con?
    Massive spending as well as 25 million unemployed and under employed Americans. Obama was elected to fix the problem and failed.
    Massive spending cause the huge shortfall in FIT. Are you serious?
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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    You mean after the dot com bubble busted or after 9-11?
    If you look, he had mediocre to decent GDP growth from 2002 until the end of 2007. So during those years.
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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    How does anyone inherit what they helped create?
    My take on a fair assessment of blame is...bush spent like a trooper..created the biggest social program since SS with prescription drug program which was created to protect rich Pharma and thier pricing...which is sell it to the rest of the world for half price or less and bury americans in horrific prices.
    There was a revolt starting over being allowed to buy drugs from canada at half the price and mexico for 5cts on a dollar...bush was ready to pass a law to ban buying from canada and he was lambasted...so up pops the drug giveaway program with the CLAUSE govt cannot negotiate lower prices from the drug companies.....and bush gave away the first 700 billion....he got this started and obama followed up with bad decisions...
    Ok its both their faults....now what are we going to do about it...aside from insisting on giving the rich and corps huge tax cuts and giving away more billions in stimulus....

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    My take on a fair assessment of blame is...bush spent like a trooper..created the biggest social program since SS with prescription drug program which was created to protect rich Pharma and thier pricing...which is sell it to the rest of the world for half price or less and bury americans in horrific prices.
    There was a revolt starting over being allowed to buy drugs from canada at half the price and mexico for 5cts on a dollar...bush was ready to pass a law to ban buying from canada and he was lambasted...so up pops the drug giveaway program with the CLAUSE govt cannot negotiate lower prices from the drug companies.....and bush gave away the first 700 billion....he got this started and obama followed up with bad decisions...
    Ok its both their faults....now what are we going to do about it...aside from insisting on giving the rich and corps huge tax cuts and giving away more billions in stimulus....
    what exactly was given to the rich?



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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Massive spending cause the dhuge shortfall in FIT. Are you serious?
    Well you got me on that one, I was focused on the debt and the loss of FIT, both of them. My apology. massive spending had nothing to do with the FIT reduction to the best of my knowledge.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    what exactly was given to the rich?
    I should have been clearer sorry...thats all that comes out of the teaparty caucus mouth ryans plan...is we need tax cuts for job creation ad nausem...
    The want to bring us to the brink of default fighting over tax cuts...
    Turtle..were not going to get anywhere with the teaparty not compromising and insisting on tax cuts for the rich while advocating cutting everything for everyone else...its just never going to work...we need compromise...look I dont know your personal lifestyle but you may not be around people that are hurting badly through no fault of their own...
    My wife an I was in walmart the other day...a teen girl came up to my wife in the store...she was neatly dressed..and asked my wife with her face RED AS A BEET with embarrassment...if she could give her a dollar so she could buy a MickieDs buck hamburger...I walked over and said you hungry young lady...she said yes..I said cmon...I took her over to mickie ds and said order whatever you want.....theres alot of kids like that now turtle..too damn many for congress to act like stonewall idiots...they NEED TO DO SOMETHING...this is really not the time for the richest americans and corporations to whine and insist on tax cuts...its like theyre eating caviar and filet mignon and drinking 500.00 bottles of wine...and its now moved up to middleclass people being hungry and while their eating their caviar they are talking and whining about how much taxs they have to pay and how they must have tax cuts...or else...
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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I should have been clearer sorry...thats all that comes out of the teaparty caucus mouth ryans plan...is we need tax cuts for job creation ad nausem...
    The want to bring us to the brink of default fighting over tax cuts...
    Turtle..were not going to get anywhere with the teaparty not compromising and insisting on tax cuts for the rich while advocating cutting everything for everyone else...its just never going to work...we need compromise...look I dont know your personal lifestyle but you may not be around people that are hurting badly through no fault of their own...
    My wife an I was in walmart the other day...a teen girl came up to my wife in the store...she was neatly dressed..and asked my wife with her face RED AS A BEET with embarrassment...if she could give her a dollar so she could buy a MickieDs buck hamburger...I walked over and said you hungry young lady...she said yes..I said cmon...I took her over to mickie ds and said order whatever you want.....theres alot of kids like that now turtle..too damn many for congress to act like stonewall idiots...they NEED TO DO SOMETHING
    1) the tea party opposes the government taking more taxes from anyone

    2) the tea party opposes wasteful government spending-much of which we could eliminate without compromising needed or necessary services

    3) taxes being raised on the "rich" will do nothing to alleviate the problems you speak of



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