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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    What I'm doing is simply using the correct terminology. Even if you look at gross debt Clinton's shortfalls were minimal and far better than those of any recent president. While there was a republican majority, the majority of republicans did NOT support the tax increase and military spending cuts that were instrumental in eliminating the budget deficit.

    And again, you continue to attribute over $1 trillion of Bush spending to Obama. You are severely truth challenged.
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    Bush didn't spend the 2009 budget, Obama did. Democrats controlled the Congress and passed the Bush budget. Obama put department heads in place on January 21 to spend the Bush budget. It was Democrats including Obama that approved the Bush budget, not Republicans. the 2009 deficit is Obama'a, he voted for it, he spent the money, he added the stimulus to it, it is his deficit.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by vvx View Post
    Because of the debt and deficits. Either you believe the national debt is bad or not. My guess is you would prefer we start an immediate and large cut in government spending? Why do you support spending cuts with 25 million unemployed and under employed Americans?
    Because it isn't the role of govt. to create jobs. Govt. only spends money and creates debt not jobs.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yes, it was CONSIDERED and REJECTED!!
    Why was it rejected?
    The haggardness of poverty is everywhere seen contrasted with the sleekness of wealth, the exhorted labor of some compensating for the idleness of others, wretched hovels by the side of stately colonnades, the rags of indigence blended with the ensigns of opulence; in a word, the most useless profusion in the midst of the most urgent wants.Jean-Baptiste Say

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Why was it rejected?
    Have to ask the Bush Administration, looks like the right thing to do based upon the results.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    There is an old saying that rings true: "Statistics never lie but liars use statistics"
    there is another one : "Everyone has a right to their own opinion, but you don't have a right to your own facts." Simply put, the wealthy do not pay a lower tax rate than the middle class in this country.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Why was it rejected?
    according to the President, because it would hurt the economy and destroy jobs

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    there is another one : "Everyone has a right to their own opinion, but you don't have a right to your own facts." Simply put, the wealthy do not pay a lower tax rate than the middle class in this country.
    It's too bad that is not the claim going around. The claim is that people who draw most or all their income from capital gains pay a lower effective tax rate than some in the middle class. Neither you nor any one in this thread has refuted this claim. You all just create these straw men to tilt at.
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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    It's too bad that is not the claim going around. The claim is that people who draw most or all their income from capital gains pay a lower effective tax rate than some in the middle class. Neither you nor any one in this thread has refuted this claim. You all just create these straw men to tilt at.
    So far I've seen no one address that at all. Not the president, not Congress, no one.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    I don't know what is fair as % of tax for the rich and poor, but at least it has to be something we can all agree upon. a simplified flat tax code will reduce the cost of collection and close loopholes. I think whatever the final % will be for each group, it should be simple and easy to calculate. This in itself will be a big step forward compare to current code.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    there is another one : "Everyone has a right to their own opinion, but you don't have a right to your own facts." Simply put, the wealthy do not pay a lower tax rate than the middle class in this country.
    Well Obama never said they all do, but the facts are that some do and some don't. You have to look to them as individuals and not a group. How do you like them apples?


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