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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So what you are saying confirse the fact that Bush did not make the loan to Solyndra. The fact remains, Solyndra went bankrupt AFTER the loan guarantee showing that a big campaign supporter of Obama got taxpayer backed loans in a "green energy" field and went bankrupt. What the press got wrong? Taxpayers are losing over 500 million dollars on this deal, a deal supported by the Obama Administration and rejected by Bush.
    The loan was bad, but this is not a scandal, that's my point.


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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    The loan was bad, but this is not a scandal, that's my point.
    So where is Obama being held accountable for making a bad business decision for the U.S. Taxpayer? Bush didn't issue the loan but 9 days after taking office Obama reinstated the proposal, why? There are billions of other taxpayer backed loans that are being released in the next few months as well. Where is the scrutiny and outrage for failure?

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Guess the IRS is useless as well?
    The taxes for those having a taxable income of a million or more would go to Clinton's level, 3.9% more.


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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So where is Obama being held accountable for making a bad business decision for the U.S. Taxpayer? Bush didn't issue the loan but 9 days after taking office Obama reinstated the proposal, why? There are billions of other taxpayer backed loans that are being released in the next few months as well. Where is the scrutiny and outrage for failure?
    Let me take the other side on this one. Perhaps the word scandal which infers wrongdoing should not be used here. Then we have the other discussion about whether we want government to try and figure out which companies to invest in. That is a role of government question which seems appropriate and perhaps points to the problem when the government gets involved versus wrongdoing.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    The taxes for those having a taxable income of a million or more would go to Clinton's level, 3.9% more.
    So much passion to take up the tax levels 3.9%, why? Do you not realize the negatve message that sends because the benefits are going to be so small? How does that put 25 million unemloyed and under employed Americans back to work full time? It may make the base "feel" good but what purpose does it serve? Where are the actual spending cuts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Let me take the other side on this one. Perhaps the word scandal which infers wrongdoing should not be used here. Then we have the other discussion about whether we want government to try and figure out which companies to invest in. That is a role of government question which seems appropriate and perhaps points to the problem when the government gets involved versus wrongdoing.
    I agree, whether or not it is a scandal is questionable but really not relative at this point. The fact is and I firmly believe it isn't the Federal Government's role to pick and choose businesses to invest in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Right, only in the liberal world is there a surplus with a rising deficit? Further if you were totally honest you would understand that Congress appropriates the money and Congress during the Clinton years was Republican except for the first two years.

    You want so badly to believe the liberal rhetoric and is making you look and sound foolish. Barack Obama has added 4 trillion to the debt in 3 years and this program he has proposed does nothing to change that.
    "Fair Share" has never been defined nor has the amount the Treasury will get from the raising taxes on the rich. All this rhetoric and you continue to believe it. The question is why? Why is there such loyalty to liberalism in the face of all the facts to the contrary?
    What I'm doing is simply using the correct terminology. Even if you look at gross debt Clinton's shortfalls were minimal and far better than those of any recent president. While there was a republican majority, the majority of republicans did NOT support the tax increase and military spending cuts that were instrumental in eliminating the budget deficit.

    And again, you continue to attribute over $1 trillion of Bush spending to Obama. You are severely truth challenged.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    What I'm doing is simply using the correct terminology. Even if you look at gross debt Clinton's shortfalls were minimal and far better than those of any recent president. While there was a republican majority, the majority of republicans did NOT support the tax increase and military spending cuts that were instrumental in eliminating the budget deficit.

    And again, you continue to attribute over $1 trillion of Bush spending to Obama. You are severely truth challenged.
    What you are missing again is that Congress appropriates the money not Clinton. Did Clinton sign budgets more or less than he proposed? My question is why do you support a tax increase with 25 million unemployed and under employed Americans and the fact that there has never been a cut in spending over the past 40 years? You continue to buy the Obama rhetoric and the question is why?

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What you are missing again is that Congress appropriates the money not Clinton. Did Clinton sign budgets more or less than he proposed? My question is why do you support a tax increase with 25 million unemployed and under employed Americans and the fact that there has never been a cut in spending over the past 40 years? You continue to buy the Obama rhetoric and the question is why?
    Because of the debt and deficits. Either you believe the national debt is bad or not. My guess is you would prefer we start an immediate and large cut in government spending? Why do you support spending cuts with 25 million unemployed and under employed Americans?

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