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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Unbelievable. Proven wrong again and again, he keeps slinging the same bullsh*t.

    FactCheck.org : The Budget and Deficit Under Clinton

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Your mystery Treasury data which you've failed to provide is not including replacement of munitions and equipment, death benefits for the families, nor the cost of Veterans care for the thousands injured and maimed.
    If you weren't so busy with your talking points you would have paid attention to the links I posted to those budgets. Of course that doesn't fit into your agenda as you have no problem posting your opinions as fact and ignoring actual facts. When the deficit is posted it includes all the items you mentioned but that doesn't fit into your agenda. Suggest you post less and do more research.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Diversion is exactly what you are practicing when you attack me for where I live instead of my positions on the issues.

    News bulletin for you: I was never mayor of Detroit. I was never elected to anything in Detroit. I have not lived in Detroit for over several decades.

    Got it?
    You are the one claiming to be an expert and yet working inside the state govt. your state is an economic disaster and you haven't solved any local problems. There hasn't been a Republican mayor of Detroit since the 60's meaning that is a bastion of liberalism, a true failure.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    If you weren't so busy with your talking points you would have paid attention to the links I posted to those budgets. Of course that doesn't fit into your agenda as you have no problem posting your opinions as fact and ignoring actual facts. When the deficit is posted it includes all the items you mentioned but that doesn't fit into your agenda. Suggest you post less and do more research.
    You don't even begin to understand the budget process or accounting. Most of Bush's war spending was off budget, coming in the form of emergency appropriations. Obama has corrected that deceptive practice, making his deficits look worse relative to Bush's.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Unbelievable. Proven wrong again and again, he keeps slinging the same bullsh*t.

    FactCheck.org : The Budget and Deficit Under Clinton
    Here we go again, you have been brainwashed, didn't read the article on the myth did you? Let me help you, THERE WAS A SURPLUS in PUBLIC DEBT but that is only part of the story and if you read the article you would stop making a fool of yourself.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    You don't even begin to understand the budget process or accounting. Most of Bush's war spending was off budget, coming in the form of emergency appropriations. Obama has corrected that deceptive practice, making his deficits look worse relative to Bush's.
    You don't seem to understand that supplementals although not part of the budget ARE part of the deficit and thus are added tot he debt. Obama's 842 billion dollar stimulus was a supplemental and part of the 2009 deficit. You confuse budgets with actual expenditures so you really should do more research.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Here we go again, you have been brainwashed, didn't read the article on the myth did you? Let me help you, THERE WAS A SURPLUS in PUBLIC DEBT but that is only part of the story and if you read the article you would stop making a fool of yourself.
    Hey, at least you finally acknowledge that there was a surplus. Maybe one day you'll even understand why the gross debt still showed minimal growth (i.e., the SS tax surplus).

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You don't seem to understand that supplementals although not part of the budget ARE part of the deficit and thus are added tot he debt. Obama's 842 billion dollar stimulus was a supplemental and part of the 2009 deficit. You confuse budgets with actual expenditures so you really should do more research.
    Will you ever figure out that only budget items are considered when BUDGET DEFICITS are discussed? You are confusing two different things: budget deficits and deficits in gross. They are not interchangeable and you can't pick and choose which one to cite as it suits your argment.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Hey, at least you finally acknowledge that there was a surplus. Maybe one day you'll even understand why the gross debt still showed minimal growth (i.e., the SS tax surplus).
    Maybe you will understand that we pay debt service on the TOTAL DEBT not just public debt. Taking money from SS and puting it on budget creates a surplus in one category and a deficit in the other so selective accounting on your part makes you look foolish. Clinton took office with a 4.4 trillion debt and left with it at 5.7 trillion. If he had the surpluses you claim that wouldn't have happened.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Will you ever figure out that only budget items are considered when BUDGET DEFICITS are discussed? You are confusing two different things: budget deficits and deficits in gross. They are not interchangeable and you can't pick and choose which one to cite as it suits your argment.
    I provided Treasury Data which includes total debt and as I posted out 842 billion stimulus for Obama wasn't on budget but was counted in the deficit, just like Bush supplementals. You are the one picking and choosing what you want to believe. You want to believe Clinton had a surplus. Does it matter if he had a surplus if the debt increased? Taxpayers fund debt service and that debt service is paid on the debt which is increased by the total deficits. Get it yet?
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