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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I doubt you have done anything that has made me richer so you can forget about me giving you anything. but your hatred of the rich is both expected and a bit pathological
    I do not waste my time or energy hating anyone, hatred only empowers those who the hatred is directed at. When rich folks take advantage of tax breaks and loop holes not available to the rest of the society that enables them to accumulate more wealth, hedge funds, stock manipulation, speculating, using tax payer monies to relocate businesses to foreign countries, outsourcing, credit cards, mortgage lending and the list goes on, want to help me out? I am sure you can add to it

    Now try not to hate me I am just a normal american, I worked hard with my hands and mind and made a good living. When I see a poor person I don't look at them as lazy parasites or leaches I think to myself there but for the grace of god go I

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    as did those in the military I suppose. but I have neither. all the wars did was drive up the cost of ammunition. I am a competitive shooter and the cost of 9mm and 5.56mm ammo went up several dollars a 50 due to the war. Thus the war cost me money
    How about the thousands that lost arms or legs??? And you think you suffered because the war caused the price to go up for your sport??? That is a pretty damn sick perspective.
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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Have you missed THunder's posts? what do you think Obumble does when he spews blatant lies that the rich don't pay their fair share?
    Turtle ill ask you again for a source or any historical evidence to these claims:

    "too many people want too much government that others are taxed to pay for

    that leads to politicians pandering to the many by promising them more and more handouts combined with a claim that OTHERS will pay for those things"

    Do you have any historical sources or any sources?
    Please...
    Ill be waiting..


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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by tcmartin10 View Post
    One quick question. If we have been borrowing money at a tremendous rate, and we continue borrowing. If we raise taxes on the wealthy, we will still be borrowing just not as much. Because the rich are "subsidizing" in a way. correct?
    Its not clear to me what your are asking. Please clarify.
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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    No the reason is that it does impact them. My guess is you will not pay any more taxes ( if you pay any now) under this proposal.
    If you were correct in your assumption that most people have no concern about the nations debt that all of us have to pay down, that might be true. Personally, I would be willing to give up my middle class tax cut, but I realize that most of the middle class is hurting worse than I am, and I realize that the middle class having enough money to be consumers is what makes our economy thrive.
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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    The tax break is that capital gains are taxed lower. I've yet to see this addressed.
    That was indeed one of the tax breaks, but be patient, when the economy gets a little stronger, attention will be turned in that direction, as you are correct to point out that it should be.
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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Snevert View Post
    It's not applying tax breaks/credits/loopholes. Yeah, 39.6% is the technical rate but after all breaks and such he actually only pays 15%.
    So in other words Buffett is paying less because he wants to not because the government said this is what you'll pay.
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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    That was indeed one of the tax breaks, but be patient, when the economy gets a little stronger, attention will be turned in that direction, as you are correct to point out that it should be.
    Buffetts salary is 100K. Sorry, I've had my fill of future promises as they are never addressed.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    So in other words Buffett is paying less because he wants to not because the government said this is what you'll pay.
    Yes, despite his rhetoric, he has made the decision to get paid in a way that gaurantee's him less in taxes.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    So in other words Buffett is paying less because he wants to not because the government said this is what you'll pay.
    Like everyone else, Buffett pays what he has to pay. Another billionaire voices his opinion:

    "So be Patriotic. Go out there and get rich. Get so obnoxiously rich that when that tax bill comes , your first thought will be to choke on how big a check you have to write. Your 2nd thought will be “what a great problem to have”, and your 3rd should be a recognition that in paying your taxes you are helping to support millions of Americans that are not as fortunate as you."

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