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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Certainly growing up wealthy imparts enormous advantages that others don't have, even without a sizeable inheritance. OTOH, I suppose the feelings of guilt and sense of entitlement are something of a burden.
    great don't leave your children anything assuming you can earn something But don't foist your attitude on me. YOu do what you want and I will do what I want.



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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I never claimed a personal right to anything. My belief is that anything of substantial value should be earned.
    and if you earn something you have the right to do with it as you see fit

    that's the point you seem to miss



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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    and if you earn something you have the right to do with it as you see fit

    that's the point you seem to miss
    Who is arguing this point?
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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Again you miss the point.

    Children who inherit simply have the luck to be born in the right family. Your statements that the rich are smarter and more successful DOES NOT APPLY to trust fund children who inherit.

    What teams you may have almost been on is irrelevant to this fact.

    Nobody here cares who gives you money. That is not and never was the issue. for you to pretend otherwise is intellectually dishonest and a diversion from the topic being discussed.
    It is interesting, how they can say those with less wealth or incomes just need to work harder, while at the same time defending inheritance. I'd like everyone who wants money to work for it. A level playing field where your success is the result of your efforts. Not everyone wants to play on a level playing field. At least they admit it, I guess.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Again you miss the point.

    Children who inherit simply have the luck to be born in the right family. Your statements that the rich are smarter and more successful DOES NOT APPLY to trust fund children who inherit.

    What teams you may have almost been on is irrelevant to this fact.

    Nobody here cares who gives you money. That is not and never was the issue. for you to pretend otherwise is intellectually dishonest and a diversion from the topic being discussed.
    never said that. you are being intellectually dishonest when making such a claim

    what I am claiming is that you have no proper standing to demand that an owner of an estate have his wealth taken because you are upset that he may give it to someone you don't approve of

    you have absolutely ZERO moral standing to determine what happens to that wealth



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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    and if you earn something you have the right to do with it as you see fit

    that's the point you seem to miss
    I agree. As long as I live what's mine is mine. After I die it goes back to the society that made it possible. Ashes to ashes....

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by vvx View Post
    It is interesting, how they can say those with less wealth or incomes just need to work harder, while at the same time defending inheritance. I'd like everyone who wants money to work for it. A level playing field where your success is the result of your efforts. Not everyone wants to play on a level playing field. At least they admit it, I guess.
    I oppose giving the government that power

    if you earn a million you should be able to give it to whom you want and the envious, the parasitic and the utopian pillowheads should be denied any say in what you do with it



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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I agree. As long as I live what's mine is mine. After I die it goes back to the society that made it possible. Ashes to ashes....
    that's your right to do with your wealth as you see fit

    me I plan on giving it to those I want to give it to



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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    never said that. you are being intellectually dishonest when making such a claim

    what I am claiming is that you have no proper standing to demand that an owner of an estate have his wealth taken because you are upset that he may give it to someone you don't approve of

    you have absolutely ZERO moral standing to determine what happens to that wealth
    You are 100% wrong.

    As an American citizen, I have every right to have an opinion about matters of taxation. And this is one of them. I have a perfect legal right to lobby my legislators to enact laws putting my opinion on such matters into law.

    as this

    never said that. you are being intellectually dishonest when making such a claim
    Now it is you who are grossly intellectually dishonest. Over and over and over again in thread after thread after thread you have repeatedly and often told this board how increasing taxes upon the wealthy is punishing those who are more successful and those who achieve more. Again, people who inherit are not more successful nor have they achieved anything other than inheritence. In theory, if you taxed them at 99% you would not be punishing success or achievement. You would simply be taxing the good luck to be born to wealthy parents.
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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by vvx View Post
    It is interesting, how they can say those with less wealth or incomes just need to work harder, while at the same time defending inheritance. I'd like everyone who wants money to work for it. A level playing field where your success is the result of your efforts. Not everyone wants to play on a level playing field. At least they admit it, I guess.
    And therein lies the fundamental conservative hypocrisy. So many of them turn a blind eye to the extraordinary advantages they enjoy through no effort of their own and then throw dirt on those who came into life with two strikes against them. Too many parasites who were born rich have the gaul to cast aspersions on those who were born with every disadvantage.
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