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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    You do understand corporations exist to make profits not to provide jobs?
    then WTF should we be giving them special tax-rates and rights of personhood?

    if corporations are not going to even attempt to work towards the greater good of our society ALONG with making money, then **** them.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    then WTF should we be giving them special tax-rates and rights of personhood?

    if corporations are not going to even attempt to work towards the greater good of our society ALONG with making money, then **** them.
    explain your knowledge of "rights of personhood"



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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    explain your knowledge of "rights of personhood"
    do corporations have some of the rights that people do? yes, yes they do.

    this is a disgrace and should be undone.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    do corporations have some of the rights that people do? yes, yes they do.

    this is a disgrace and should be undone.
    explain what rights they have and why that is detrimental to the lowest common denominator society you crave



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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    then WTF should we be giving them special tax-rates and rights of personhood?

    if corporations are not going to even attempt to work towards the greater good of our society ALONG with making money, then **** them.

    Exactly. It is exactly because of the exclusions from taxes, and legal exceptions made for them, that allow corporations to exist in the first place. Without these laws, such large businesses would quickly find themselves non competitive with smaller, less wasteful, more agile businesses. Politicians like to grant these things to corporations, one, because they are funded by them, but two, because corporations employ more people, and, due to their size, require more positions in beurocracy than small businesses do, again, helping those employment numbers. The larger a company gets, the more unnecessary (to a small business) employees they have to employ. Therefore, someone running on a platform of employment, would be behooved to do what it takes to allow businesses in the area to grow as large a possible.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Occupy Wall St.'s drumbeat grows louder

    "I think the message is obvious," said Jesse Lagreca, 38. "The wealthiest one percent is taking advantage of working class people. They've been selling us faulty financial products, they've been taking huge bonuses while depending on society to bail them out."

    CBSMoneywatch's Jill Schlesinger points out that, according to economists at Northeastern University, corporate profits represented 88 percent of the growth in real national income between the 2Q of 2009 and 4Q of 2010, during the same period aggregate wages and salaries accounted for just over 1 percent. "The money that companies have earned during the recovery has mostly stayed within corporate America," writes Schlesinger, "and has not trickled down into higher wages, nor has it created enough jobs to put some of the 14 million unemployed Americans back to work."

    Moneywatch: Shrinking Incomes Fuel Protester Anger

    "Ninety-nine percent of the people need to be prospering, not just the top one percent," said Michael Mulgrew, president of New York City's United Federation of Teachers.

    "Every community knows they're hurting, what's going on is wrong, and it's time to stop this and make a difference, and do things that allow all people to prosper."

    Occupy Wall St.'s drumbeat grows louder - CBS News
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    It appears to be a collection of losers who convince each other that being a loser is not their own fault but the fault of others

    In other words its a support group for failures



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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Occupy Wall St.'s drumbeat grows louder

    "I think the message is obvious," said Jesse Lagreca, 38. "The wealthiest one percent is taking advantage of working class people. They've been selling us faulty financial products, they've been taking huge bonuses while depending on society to bail them out."

    CBSMoneywatch's Jill Schlesinger points out that, according to economists at Northeastern University, corporate profits represented 88 percent of the growth in real national income between the 2Q of 2009 and 4Q of 2010, during the same period aggregate wages and salaries accounted for just over 1 percent. "The money that companies have earned during the recovery has mostly stayed within corporate America," writes Schlesinger, "and has not trickled down into higher wages, nor has it created enough jobs to put some of the 14 million unemployed Americans back to work."

    Moneywatch: Shrinking Incomes Fuel Protester Anger

    "Ninety-nine percent of the people need to be prospering, not just the top one percent," said Michael Mulgrew, president of New York City's United Federation of Teachers.

    "Every community knows they're hurting, what's going on is wrong, and it's time to stop this and make a difference, and do things that allow all people to prosper."

    Occupy Wall St.'s drumbeat grows louder - CBS News
    And what are those protests going to do to solve the problem? Obama has been in charge for over 2 1/2 years and the results today are worse than when he took office as I have posted. Your total lack of understanding of how business works just fuels these idiots. Didn't see one employer on the streets seeking job applicants, did you?

    You really have misguided anger. We have a 3.7 trillion dollar Federal Govt. and a 14.6 trillion dollar debt. You do realize that those evil rich people pay higher taxes when their income goes up, don't you? So tell me how the 14.6 trillion dollar debt and massive expansion of the govt. will solve the economic problems we have today?

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    It appears to be a collection of losers who convince each other that being a loser is not their own fault but the fault of others

    In other words its a support group for failures
    As usual you nailed it but that will go right over the head of those here that support the class warfare and attack on private industry for in their world it is always someone else's fault for their own personal failures.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    What you fail to recognize is that we are over 2 1/2 years into the Obama Presidency who with OVERWHELMING numbers in the Congress generated the results I have posted and you have ignored. You can claim the economy was a wreck when he took office but you ignore his influence and the Congress influence on that economy blaming everything on GW Bush. All that does is divert from reality today and the 38% JAR of Obama. Only a true liberal believer ignores results and believes that more liberalism which created the problem is better to solve the problem. I doubt seriously that you know how the private sector works which makes you part of the 38% that continues to support Obama.
    Again, I'm not ignoring it. But unlike you, I'm not ignoring that the economy lost 8 million jobs during Bush's Great Recession. 12 million lost to underemployment. No human on Earth could fix that in 2 years. Never since the Great Depression has a president dumped an economy losing 12 million jobs to underemployment on his successor.

    The funniest part about your rants is on one hand, you complain endlessly how Obama isn't creating enough jobs while in the other hand, you claim the government can't create jobs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    What I see from people like you is total ignorance about human behavior and what affects individual economics. Inflation affects individual buying power, High interest rates affect credit cards, home mortgages, auto loans, and high unemployment affects personal income. All those were high or rising when Reagan took office. Unemployment was rising when Obama took office but interest rates and inflation were low making the 81-82 individual more damaging to the individual.
    That is BS -- please stop lying.

    When Reagan became president, inflation was dropping, not rising...

    Historical Inflation Rates

    When Reagan became president, interest rates were dropping, not rising...

    Mortgage (ARM) Indexes: Prime Rate: Historical Data

    When Reagan became president, the unemployment rate was flat, not rising...

    Bureau of Labor Statistics Data


    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    The issue though is not 2009, the issue is today and the results today show that "your" President is a disaster. 38% still believe and drink the kool-aid, guess we know where you stand.
    There are many issues being discussed, most of which, you participate in. You said the 1981-82 recession was worse than the 2008-09 recession. Well like it or not, the onus is on you to prove it. You're citing inflation as one of the factors that made the earlier recession worse but inflation is not an indicator of the economy. You have accepted this as true by twice avoiding my question which I highlighted in red, so you know it, yet you spout otherwise anyway. Meanwhile, you ignore GDP which is the strongest indicator of the economy and the reason you ignore it is because it proves Bush's Great Recession was worse.

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