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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    For all the bitching Republicans do about taxes, I would think that they would be happy that nearly half the people pay no income taxes. Instead, they bitch and complain that people are not paying enough in taxes. You just can't win with some people.

    If they want to blame someone for this, then blame Reagan. Ronald Reagan made the decision in 1986 to exempt people with incomes below the poverty line from federal income tax.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so do you and you don't pay near as much as they do

    I asked what they GET IN ADDITION TO WHAT OTHERS GET FOR PAYING SO MUCH MORE TAXES
    Certainly those with more wealth have more benefit from things like the military preventing a foreign country coming in and taking all their possessions. Take all the possessions of the bottom 50% of the country and they're barely worse off than they are now. The system also allowed them to prosper. Perhaps they took advantage of the capitalist system in place to use their wealth as an investment to increase the size of their wealth. Something the bottom 50% of the country can't really do since most of their income is spent on living expenses. And if it weren't for public education and regulation keeping the population healthy, it would be hard to find employees or buyers for their goods, assuming they have businesses.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    my entire argument in this and similar threads have been based on common sense, logic, and rational thinking.

    the more money you earn, the more money you have, the more money you can afford to pay in taxes.

    this ain't rocket science Turtledude.
    You keep repeating this same exact post. I already replied to it and explained exactly how confused you are. For the love of God if you are going to pretend like you know something at least come up with a few more ways to say it. Your ignorance is a prime example of why this country is in a nose dive. You don't hhave the slightest clue what common sense and logic are.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I pay over 300k a year in income taxes. I'll tell you what, when you pay as much as I do you will have room to talk. I suspect I pay more in a year than you have in your life
    Interesting. And how much of that money did you EARN, as opposed to inheriting? As a wise man once said, "Its time for those who have been subsidized by others to either give up all the goodies they expect from others, or step up and start paying for what they demand".
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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    nice propaganda. the war on poverty has been a failure and has probably created more poor people, It certainly has cost thousands of lives too in terms of criminals spawned by single parent homes and illegitimacy. it enriched bureaucrats, greatly expanded the government and cost us trillions
    I agree, the war on poverty has been a failure and has probably increased rather than decreased the number of people in poverty. Not that it's not a worthy cause, it's just the implementation is terrible. Unfortunately, you get a lot of highly emotional sympathetic individuals pushing for laws and if someone suggests a cost/benefit analysis they're heartless and cruel. So a lot of what gets done in that war is "feel good" legislation, not effective legislation.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Antiderivative View Post
    For all the bitching Republicans do about taxes, I would think that they would be happy that nearly half the people pay no income taxes. Instead, they bitch and complain that people are not paying enough in taxes. You just can't win with some people.

    If they want to blame someone for this, then blame Reagan. Ronald Reagan made the decision in 1986 to exempt people with incomes below the poverty line from federal income tax.
    You are missing the point, Liberals are calling for the rich to pay more and that brings into play the numbers that aren't paying anything. How can anyone claim that the rich need to pay their fair share when they are paying 38% of the taxes now and 47% of the income earners aren't paying any FIT. Apparently their fair share is zero, right?

    Republicans don't believe we have a revenue problem but instead a spending problem. If you really want more revenue then get it from those not paying any FIT.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    why can wealthy people afford to pay more in taxes?

    is this the silly question you are asking me?
    Nobody is arguing why they can afford more. They are arguing that you are not entitled to it just because you are jealous that somebody has more than you do. You are a pathetic bottom feeder.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by vvx View Post
    Certainly those with more wealth have more benefit from things like the military preventing a foreign country coming in and taking all their possessions. Take all the possessions of the bottom 50% of the country and they're barely worse off than they are now. The system also allowed them to prosper. Perhaps they took advantage of the capitalist system in place to use their wealth as an investment to increase the size of their wealth. Something the bottom 50% of the country can't really do since most of their income is spent on living expenses. And if it weren't for public education and regulation keeping the population healthy, it would be hard to find employees or buyers for their goods, assuming they have businesses.
    You are just making that stuff up

    but the top one percent pay 13 Times the income taxes as the bottom 50%. DO you claim that the top 1% use 13 TIMES AS MUCH GOVERNMENT SERVICES as the bottom 50%?



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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    why do they pay more than they should?

    compared to the last 80 years, they pay A LOT less than they used to.
    Because they pay more than you do.... It is common sense and logic...The most simple kind. Math, learn it.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Smokified View Post
    Nobody is arguing why they can afford more. They are arguing that you are not entitled to it just because you are jealous that somebody has more than you do. You are a pathetic bottom feeder.
    careful I don't want you being banned and that sort of insult can be infracted.

    and jealousy does have much to do with some of these posts



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