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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You are absolutely correct, I have no interest in reading it. I made mine through hard work, risk taking, initiative. Young kids like you don't have a clue and yet waste more time blaming someone else for your own failures. you will grow up someday, hope I am around to see it.

    By the way, yes, I am a Christian but don't discuss religion on any thread. I am not going to ever try and convince you but someday you will have to explain your beliefs to someone. I am confortable with my views and yes I believe in free will. I have seen first hand the power of God. You must live a very shallow life without any faith at all.
    You know a lot of my family and friends I have are very religious. Because of this and my personal lack of faith I've been invited to a lot of different churches, all christian but I've seen a wide variety of denominations, I am curious however which denomination you belong to. It's always been my understanding the judgment of others was for god and god alone. That you should help those who are misguided and unfortunate along the path to spiritual enlightenment. Those are the Christians I'm used to.
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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    You want badly to blame Bush for the job losses when it was Democrats in Congress that controlled the legislative process and the purse strings.
    Allow me to point out that to this day, you have yet to cite a single bill they passed in 2007 which led to Bush's Great Recession. Obviously, you're full of ****, you simply just can't admit that Republicans and Bush were the ones mostly to blame.


    "Thanks to our policies, home ownership in America is at an all-time high." ~ George Bush, 9.2.2004, RNC acceptance speech

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    I will gladly give Bush blame for anything that happened from 2001-2008...
    You're lying again ... easy to prove too ...

    Who do you blame for the 2001 recession which began in March, 2001 ... Clinton or Bush? Oh, that would be Clinton ...
    "Aw, so now you want to buy Bush rhetoric, there were projected surpluses before the Clinton recession and before 9/11." ~ Conservative

    Who do you blame for failing to protect us from a terrorist attack in September, 2001 ... Clinton or Bush? Oh, that would be Clinton ... "Oh, Bush did that, huh? What would you have said or done had Bush shut down the airports. Why didn't your hero do something about it" ~ Conservative

    Who do you blame for Bush's Great Recession which began in December, 2007 ... Clinton or Bush? Oh, that too would be Clinton ... "You really are outraged over the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Law, where is your outrage for all the Democrats that voted for the final bill which obviously you want to ignore. On November 4th, the final bill resolving the differences was passed by the Senate 90-8, and by the House 362-57. This legislation was signed into law by Democratic President Bill Clinton on November 12, 1999"
    ~ Conservative

    So don't sit there and lie through your keyboard, claiming how you hold Bush accountable for what happened on his watch. You don't. You never have and you never will.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post

    Do you have no idea what math is? So what tax rate do you propose on those under 20k per year (Which is probably most of those "65 million plus" workers)?
    Just so ya know, he doesn't even know who controlled the Senate when the 2001 recession hit ... he actually thinks Democrats were in charge at the time ...


    "He did, March 2001 according to NBER so unless you can tell me what Bush implemented on January 21, 2001 with a Democrat Controlled Senate that created a recession that started in March it was an inherited recession?" ~ Conservative


    That demonstrates his <sarcasm>acumen</sarcasm> on politics ... don't even broach mathematics with him ... it's above his payscale.


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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    The difference is the direction of the country at the end of his first term and the economic policy that was implemented. Obama has none and Reagan's tax cuts were being finalized. Reagan had a net job gain at the end of his third year and the unemployment continued to drop. Obama's continue to be over 9%
    The other differences you choose to ignore ... Reagan wasn't handed an economy which lost 1.1 million jobs in the month he started ... Reagan wasn't handed an economy with 21 million people underemployed ... Reagan wasn't handed an economy in recession ... Reagan wasn't handed an economy with -8.9% GDP ... Reagan wasn't handed an economy with a crushed housing market ... Reagan wasn't handed an economy with an unemployment rate of 14%.

    You also choose to ignore that polls continue to reveal that most people still blame Bush for the current economic conditions by a margin of roughly 3 to 2.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Are we jumping btwn U6 and U3 again?

    Like when you indiscriminately compare real and nominal numbers.
    You're harping up the wrong tree if you think you can get Conservative to use the same terms in comparisons. We've been over this at least a dozen times. Conservatives picks whatever he thinks supports his position, even when it makes little to no sense.
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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Allow me to point out that to this day, you have yet to cite a single bill they passed in 2007 which led to Bush's Great Recession. Obviously, you're full of ****, you simply just can't admit that Republicans and Bush were the ones mostly to blame.


    "Thanks to our policies, home ownership in America is at an all-time high." ~ George Bush, 9.2.2004, RNC acceptance speech
    Nor can you point out a single bill from 2007 or earily 2008, that would have done anything to to slow, stop, or even ease the pain of the crash, can you ? What does that say about your liberal party ?

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    The question should be how can the unemployment rate be below 8%. President Reagan stradegy worked well, he lowered the high tax rates and started to gear up to fight a war, that created jobs the problem was that he left the tax cuts in place to long.

    President Obama can't cut the tax rates by 50%, the wars he has in progress are a drain on our economy. Efforts to deal with the Chinese undervalued currency are being opposed by members of both parties. If we want our jobs back we need to realize that the war we are engaged in is an economic war and we are not winning it

    We can all keep pointing our fingers at the other side but the truth is both sides share in the lost of American jobs. The trade deficit is the driver of lost jobs in America, the only way to see the lost jobs return is for us to demand that trade agreements are adhered to, if we donít nothing is going to bring those jobs back. Any politician who opposes the enforcement of trade agreements should be voted out of office.
    Barack Obama is in over his head on running a private sector economy. He has no clue as he is a leftwing ideologue whose goal is to fundamentally change America into a European Socialist model that has failed. I have zero confidence in him as does the business community. The best way to get out of this mess is to fire Obama, like it or not, that is reality.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by alexxouellette View Post
    You know a lot of my family and friends I have are very religious. Because of this and my personal lack of faith I've been invited to a lot of different churches, all christian but I've seen a wide variety of denominations, I am curious however which denomination you belong to. It's always been my understanding the judgment of others was for god and god alone. That you should help those who are misguided and unfortunate along the path to spiritual enlightenment. Those are the Christians I'm used to.
    I am a Catholic and converted in 1997. Before that I was a Protestant. I don't discuss religion on line because it isn't my goal to change anyone. I believe in free will and someone has to find their own way.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Allow me to point out that to this day, you have yet to cite a single bill they passed in 2007 which led to Bush's Great Recession. Obviously, you're full of ****, you simply just can't admit that Republicans and Bush were the ones mostly to blame.


    "Thanks to our policies, home ownership in America is at an all-time high." ~ George Bush, 9.2.2004, RNC acceptance speech
    Allow me to point out this is 2011 and the numbers today are worse than when Obama took office. There are over 25 million unemployed and under employed Americans TODAY and over 4 trillion added to the debt in the last 2 1/2 years. That is reality and it has nothing to do with Bush.

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