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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    there are a very small percentage of those people you are describing but that doesn't stop you from stereotyping anyone that has more than you.
    and it surely doesn't stop you from stereotyping those who have less than you .

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    and it surely doesn't stop you from stereotyping those who have less than you .
    You haven't been paying attention then. I don't care what someone else makes or pays in taxes, why do you? If you want to pay 90% in taxes, do it, but why force everyone else to do the same thing? The stereotyping comes from people who seem to know what those rich people do with their money or what they spend it on? What does your high tax rates do to state and local tax revenue? think about it

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    If you want to pay 90% in taxes, do it, but why force everyone else to do the same thing?
    Because one person paying 90% taxes does nothing.
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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Jryan;1059851836]Because one person paying 90% taxes does nothing.
    You are showing your youth and making a mockery of the discussion. How does sending 90's of your income into the govt. so they can spend it on what they deem necessary actually benefit anyone and do you even know where the money goes? do you even care or are you like all liberals where spending in the name of compassion means more than actual compassionate spending that generates results?
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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    there are a very small percentage of those people you are describing but that doesn't stop you from stereotyping anyone that has more than you.
    I know you can read so apparently you are so stuck on your talking points that you can't ?? Are you a robot?

    Originally Posted by EarlzP

    First off I do not care what you make, you can't seem to under stand I am fine my family is fine we all worked and worked hard to make a living, my concern is for those less fortunate then I am, why because we are all part of the whole, not one of us could stand on our own. Maybe the difference is in where we came from the experiences we had that shaped our lives and opinions,

    If you did not participate in the scams that Wall Street perpetrated on Americans stealing from the middle class, poor and elderly by speculating on life essential needs, by engaging in our profiting from predatory lending practices ect. In other words if you worked for a living I could care less about what you have
    What is it about I could care less about what you have that you can't under stand? Some of the rich earned "worked for" what they have and some of them stole what they have, which are you?

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    I know you can read so apparently you are so stuck on your talking points that you can't ?? Are you a robot?



    What is it about I could care less about what you have that you can't under stand? Some of the rich earned "worked for" what they have and some of them stole what they have, which are you?
    If you care less about what I have then stop stereotying me into that group that you hate.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Not at all. I want people to be successful - wildly successful. If a person through their own talent and hard work makes it big - bully for them and I raise my glass in a toast to them.

    My comments were geared to a very narrow slice - the silly claim that the rich got an A in personal economics (as one poster identified it) while in reality many who complain the loudest about the rich getting picked on are only rich because they had the dumb luck to be born into a family of means and inherit it.

    They did not earn an A in personal economics - they were given an A along with diapers, formual and a nice stroller.
    I just find the whole debate surrounding big groups, whether they be rich or poor disturbing and in many ways simplistic. Within the group of people of means are many that as Ann Richards said a number of years ago born on third base and think they hit a triple, but also a large group of people that started with little and did in fact hit a triple.

    That being said, I think you miss a key point in what has made America great. A reason I worked 40 years, averaging at least 60 hours a week was not only to make a better life for myself, but as least as important to give my son a better start than I had. As a nation of immigrants I think many forget that the reason so many come here and work their butts off is so that their children will do better than they did and their grandchildren better yet. Sort of standing on the shoulders of their parents.

    Take away that motivation and you take a lot of energy out of the American spirit.

    With all of that said, there is room between the extremists on both sides. One side says there should be no estate tax at any level of either tax rate or level of estate left behind. The other extreme says confiscate everything.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Paul Ryan defends tax breaks for the rich and gets booed at town hall

    "An audience at a town hall in Milton, Wisconsin booed the congressman when he tried to defend his proposal.

    “The middle class is disappearing right now,” one constituent at the town hall explained. “During this time of prosperity, the top one percent was taking about ten percent of the total annual income, but yet today we are fighting to not let the tax breaks for the wealthy expire?”

    “You have to lower spending. But it’s a matter of there’s nothing wrong with taxing the top because it does not trickle down,” another constituent added.

    “We do tax the top,” Ryan explained as the audience booed.

    “Let’s remember, most of our jobs come from successful small businesses. Two-thirds of our jobs do. You got to remember, businesses pay taxes individually. So when you raise their tax rates to 44.8 percent, which is what the president is proposing, I would just fundamentally disagree. That is going to hurt job creation.”

    Watch this video from Ryan’s town hall."



    Paul Ryan defends tax breaks for the rich and gets booed at town hall*|*Raw Replay
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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    I just find the whole debate surrounding big groups, whether they be rich or poor disturbing and in many ways simplistic. Within the group of people of means are many that as Ann Richards said a number of years ago born on third base and think they hit a triple, but also a large group of people that started with little and did in fact hit a triple.

    That being said, I think you miss a key point in what has made America great. A reason I worked 40 years, averaging at least 60 hours a week was not only to make a better life for myself, but as least as important to give my son a better start than I had. As a nation of immigrants I think many forget that the reason so many come here and work their butts off is so that their children will do better than they did and their grandchildren better yet. Sort of standing on the shoulders of their parents.

    Take away that motivation and you take a lot of energy out of the American spirit.

    With all of that said, there is room between the extremists on both sides. One side says there should be no estate tax at any level of either tax rate or level of estate left behind. The other extreme says confiscate everything.

    If your claim that a slightly higher tax for millionaires and billionaires would do away with incentives to be rich than we would have seen no rich people in our history when the tax rates were much higher for millionaires and billionaires then they are today, but that was not the case.
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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    If your claim that a slightly higher tax for millionaires and billionaires would do away with incentives to be rich than we would have seen no rich people in our history when the tax rates were much higher for millionaires and billionaires then they are today, but that was not the case.
    Noticed that you use liberal talking points and talking about fair share, still waiting for you to define fair share when 47% of income earners, mostly 50000 and less don't pay ANY FIT? Keep running and using your talking points.

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