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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    It took both taxing too little and spending too much to create our debt, it is going to take the opposite to pay it down. One or the other isn't going to be sufficient.
    Still waiting for you to define my "fair share" in real dollars for Federal, State, and Local Taxes? You keep running.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    This is the best you got after all your claims were proven lies?
    Ehh i guess alright...

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Love the liberal and in your case socialist talking points. Define FAIR SHARE by putting a number on it?
    I didnt put a number on it... I just provided facts about taxation during Reagan's presidency....
    I mean Reagan called for "the rich paying their fair share"... Was he using liberal and "socialist talking points"?

    How much should I pay in Federal, State, and Local Taxes?
    Well apparently REagan had an idea...
    How much do you make?

    I have seen no evidence that you have a clue. Love kids of today who are experts on every issue yet have never held a real job.

    No apparently you just dont like factual information..


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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Still waiting for you to define my "fair share" in real dollars for Federal, State, and Local Taxes? You keep running.
    What is your total annual income from all sources?
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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    This is the best you got after all your claims were proven lies?
    Ehh i guess alright...


    I didnt put a number on it... I just provided facts about taxation during Reagan's presidency....
    I mean Reagan called for "the rich paying their fair share"... Was he using liberal and "socialist talking points"?


    Well apparently REagan had an idea...
    How much do you make?



    No apparently you just dont like factual information..
    How old were you during the Reagan Term? You don't have a clue, the top marginal rate after the Reagan Tax cuts were implemented was 28%. He eliminated loopholes and I have no problem with that on ALL Taxpayers, how about you? Lower the rates and eliminate the loopholes. Think socialists are going to do that? No way, they need people dependent.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    What is your total annual income from all sources?
    Why does that matter? What is my fair share of Federal, State,and Local taxes in total dollars? All you want is class warfare and all you have is class envy. I believe it is more like jealousy and envy thus you want to penalize people like me who worked hard and achieved a lot. Now you want a cut of what I have made and don't believe I spend my money properly even though you don't know how much I make, how much I give to charity and the social work that I do yearly. Like all liberals you believe my money should go to a politician in D.C. so they can decide where to spend it thus bypassing many truly in need.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    How old were you during the Reagan Term?
    Wasnt born.

    You don't have a clue,
    Ohhh so i gotcha. So history is just one big lie right? Analyzing historical sources just doesn't count right?
    If you wanna play the card of "you werent born then/you never been there so therefore you dont have a clue" card then that is just idiotic and complacent.

    the top marginal rate after the Reagan Tax cuts were implemented was 28%.
    Uhh I agreed with you on that one...
    But he called on the rich to "pay their fair share"....

    He eliminated loopholes and I have no problem with that on ALL Taxpayers, how about you?
    Neither do i.
    I believe that we should simplify that tax code and eliminate loopholes as well...
    But he really didnt eliminate loopholes...

    Lower the rates and eliminate the loopholes.
    Yea but he raised the bottom rates...

    Think socialists are going to do that?
    Uhh noo.

    No way, they need people dependent.
    My whole point is that the right and i believe people like you are calling Obama a tax warrior because he is asking the rich to pay their fair share and get rid of more loopholes. But the thing is that Reagan did the exact same thing and he was never called a tax warrior and hell Reagan raised taxes on the bottom percent!


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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    TheDemSocialist;1059849801]Wasnt born.
    Thanks for your honesty because that is exactly what I figured. What then makes you an expert on Reagan vs. someone that lived and worked during that time frame. Reagan has popularity today much higher than the textbooks you have read would have indicated. Any idea why?

    Ohhh so i gotcha. So history is just one big lie right? Analyzing historical sources just doesn't count right?
    If you wanna play the card of "you werent born then/you never been there so therefore you dont have a clue" card then that is just idiotic and complacent.
    Every hear of the misery index? What was it when Reagan took office and why was it so high? What was the unemployment rate when he took office vs. when he left? how many jobs were created from 1981-1989 after losing jobs in 81-82? What was the Reagan economic plan? Get the facts about what was going on when Reagan took office and the saying then will resonate in 2012, "Are better off today than you were four years ago?"

    Uhh I agreed with you on that one...
    But he called on the rich to "pay their fair share"....
    He called for the elimination of loopholes and he believed the rich fair share was a lower tax rate which encouraged individual wealth creation and that is why he lowered taxes over three years.


    Neither do i.
    I believe that we should simplify that tax code and eliminate loopholes as well...
    But he really didnt eliminate loopholes...
    Yes, he sure did and tax revenue doubled during the Reagan years as did economic growth(GDP)

    Yea but he raised the bottom rates...
    No, he cut all tax rates so that all taxpayers got a tax reduction thus more take home pay. Reagan never increased FIT rates, that was left to Clinton


    My whole point is that the right and i believe people like you are calling Obama a tax warrior because he is asking the rich to pay their fair share and get rid of more loopholes. But the thing is that Reagan did the exact same thing and he was never called a tax warrior and hell Reagan raised taxes on the bottom percent!
    I am asking you one more time, what is my fair share? Put a number to it. Obama is full of rhetoric and never defines it either. How about you since paying 38% of all the FIT isn't the fair share for the rich?

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Why does that matter? What is my fair share of Federal, State,and Local taxes in total dollars?
    You are the one that asked the question! How can I determine your fair share of Federal, State and Local taxes in "total dollars," if I do not know what your total annual income is from all sources?


    All you want is class warfare and all you have is class envy. I believe it is more like jealousy and envy thus you want to penalize people like me who worked hard and achieved a lot. Now you want a cut of what I have made and don't believe I spend my money properly even though you don't know how much I make, how much I give to charity and the social work that I do yearly. Like all liberals you believe my money should go to a politician in D.C. so they can decide where to spend it thus bypassing many truly in need.
    Now you are off on another rant that has absolutely nothing to do with my point that our economy can no longer afford to continue the temporary tax breaks for the wealthiest Americans.
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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Thanks for your honesty because that is exactly what I figured. What then makes you an expert on Reagan vs. someone that lived and worked during that time frame.
    Never said that i was an expert i was just pointing out a fact........
    You never rebutted on these facts either... You just cried "your not an expert... You werent born!"
    Never claimed i was an expert i just pulled up some talking points on Reagan about the "rich paying their fair share"...

    Reagan has popularity today much higher than the textbooks you have read would have indicated. Any idea why?
    Uhhh actually "my textbooks" point out that he was popular and that he is popular... I have no idea why he was popular saying that we carried his "reaganomics" over today and we can see how that lead us... Not very well...



    Every hear of the misery index?
    Yes...

    What was it when Reagan took office and why was it so high? What was the unemployment rate when he took office vs. when he left? how many jobs were created from 1981-1989 after losing jobs in 81-82? What was the Reagan economic plan? Get the facts about what was going on when Reagan took office and the saying then will resonate in 2012, "Are better off today than you were four years ago?"
    Uhhh im not attacking Reagan's job performance while he was a president...
    Why are you bringing up these points?
    All i said was several talking points Reagan used......



    He called for the elimination of loopholes
    Yea i agree...

    and he believed the rich fair share was a lower tax rate which encouraged individual wealth creation and that is why he lowered taxes over three years.
    He called that the riches taxes are not going to go lower than what he called for and he claimed they should not go lower than what he stated which was 25% percent i believe and he claimed that they should not go lower because 25% was there "fair share"...





    Yes, he sure did and tax revenue doubled during the Reagan years as did economic growth(GDP)
    Ok...
    Why are you bringing this up...
    See above



    No, he cut all tax rates so that all taxpayers got a tax reduction thus more take home pay. Reagan never increased FIT rates, that was left to Clinton
    Uhhh federal statistics would disagree...
    1986 14% 18% 38% 45% 50%
    1988 15% 15% 28% 28% 28%




    I am asking you one more time, what is my fair share?
    It depends how much you make...
    And i asked and i never got an answer.

    Put a number to it. Obama is full of rhetoric and never defines it either. How about you since paying 38% of all the FIT isn't the fair share for the rich?
    How much do you make?


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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    That was the case following the Great Depression and it appears to be what is happening now following the Great Recession. The majority are fulfilling their civic duty to stand up against failed policy like the 30 years of trickle down economics that has lowered the standard of living for the middle class, pushing many into poverty.
    Lol. The failed policy was in the inaction of GOVERNMENT to identify and lessen the risks that were obvious in the financial sector ever SINCE the great depression. And the S&L crisis. And other similar crisis around the world.

    It had nothing to do with trickle down economics!!

    I can assure you that even if people had been making say, 10% more due to draconian liberal wealth redistribution, that:
    1. the bust would still have occured
    2. those making less, would still be hurt the most

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