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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

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    This is wrong, the rich use more of the services they pay for than anyone else. Who do you think drives the roads to work? Their employees. Who do you think breathes that clean air that they cling to so tightly? Their employees. Who do you think uses food stamps to survive? Their employees. So would it be enslaving the bottom 50% to make them pay for these things or is it fair for the top 1% to pay for their employees to get to work? After all, isn't a salary just a living expense account?
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    So it is the wicked rich because they have employees? The employee shares no responsibilities in using of roads, services, and air in your way of thinking. All workes are on food stamps?
    Guess you as a student should blame the school you attend. They charge you tuition. You going to class use books, air, fuel, food. Its the rich teachers/admins fault. Tax them more.

    Using your logic, the only people not a fault are non workers. It is evident by your post your lack of life experiences. and now you think employers should pay there employees to get to work. Your thoughts make we wonder about the future of this country.
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    Using your logic, the only people not a fault are non workers. It is evident by your post your lack of life experiences. and now you think employers should pay there employees to get to work. Your thoughts make we wonder about the future of this country.
    Sense we are bringing professions into this, how does a "Professor" type so poorly. Yes, by paying someone a salary you ARE paying for their transportation, food, car, house, etc etc. So why then should they not pay for the roads they drive on? My logic is sound, yours on the other hand. Also, the workers have to live to sustain the business, they have to use the roads to sustain the business, the CEO does not need either to sustain the business. A CEO is an easily fill-able position. I ask you this, when Steve Jobs retired, did they have his position filled before he left the building on his final day? I'm thinking yes. Think of it in military terms, if you get shot, the person behind you takes your position. That also works the same with the people that work their I guess but they don't have the income (provided by said business) to pave roads, teach students, etc etc. The only people have have this money collectively is the rich. Also, lets remind people here I'm talking about taxing income NOT wealth. (The rich collectively don't have the problem to bail out our country; however, they do have the income to do so.)

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Nothing wrong with closing loopholes but to penalize one class over another is class warfare.
    Well he called on the rich to "pay their fair share" and that is what Obama is doing but it seems that Obama is being called a class warrior and what not... So it must be if your a democrat and you do this your "igniting class warfare" but if your a republican and you do this then there is "nothing wrong"...

    That serves no purpose and that isn't what Reagan did.
    Well tax rates for the rich were higher than the medium and lower classes...

    All were treated the same way
    Uhhhh noo... They were not...
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    1988 15% 15% 28% 28% 28%
    and what bothers me is we have a lot of young people here brainwashed against what Reagan actually did.
    Oh yes... "Brainwashed"...
    I would say you are the one that is "brainwashed"...

    There is a reason his popularity is in the top 10 of all Presidents.
    Its because he gives you conservatives a hard on im guessing...

    Too bad many here didn't live during his term and see what he inherited.
    Well look where the great "Reaganomics" have gotten us!!! He did a fine job right


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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    We need to haul the troops out of Iraq/Afghanistan,any other stan that were in, cose out all of our Unnecessary military bases down, wherever they may be get our country in order for a few decades. Sometimes, imo, a isolationism is a good thing.
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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Well he called on the rich to "pay their fair share" and that is what Obama is doing but it seems that Obama is being called a class warrior and what not... So it must be if your a democrat and you do this your "igniting class warfare" but if your a republican and you do this then there is "nothing wrong"...


    Well tax rates for the rich were higher than the medium and lower classes...


    Uhhhh noo... They were not...
    1982 16% 22% 49% 50% 50%
    1984 14% 18% 42% 45% 50%
    1986 14% 18% 38% 45% 50%
    1988 15% 15% 28% 28% 28%

    Oh yes... "Brainwashed"...
    I would say you are the one that is "brainwashed"...


    Its because he gives you conservatives a hard on im guessing...


    Well look where the great "Reaganomics" have gotten us!!! He did a fine job right

    Attachment 67116421

    This graph is pretty well self explanatory.
    The haggardness of poverty is everywhere seen contrasted with the sleekness of wealth, the exhorted labor of some compensating for the idleness of others, wretched hovels by the side of stately colonnades, the rags of indigence blended with the ensigns of opulence; in a word, the most useless profusion in the midst of the most urgent wants.Jean-Baptiste Say

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    If the wealthy don't want to pay more in taxes, then why not take a smaller paycheck from their companies?
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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Out of .1% T-bills and into Needed, real-infrastructure Jobs. (if correctly spent/executed)

    OCTOBER 5, 2011, 1:58 P.M. ET
    Senate Democrats Propose 5% Surtax on Millionaires
    By COREY BOLES
    Senate Democrats Propose 5% Surtax on Millionaires - WSJ.com

    WASHINGTON—Senate Democrats proposed a 5% surtax on people earning more than $1 million a year to pay for the $447 billion cost of President Barack Obama's job-creation bill, in a move designed to shore up Democratic support for the measure.

    The proposal would replace the range of tax deductions for wealthy people, oil companies and other businesses that the president had proposed to end to offset the cost of the job-creation initiatives in his plan.
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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Drastic spending cuts need to take place, not taxing the rich more so that more of their money can be sucked into a government that wastes billions of dollars and passes spending bills that do no good. The answer is not to tax and spend, the answer is to spend less and reform the tax code to prevent tax loopholes from being abused.
    It took both taxing too little and spending too much to create our debt, it is going to take the opposite to pay it down. One or the other isn't going to be sufficient.
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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Stop using the "founders vision". Take a critical thinking class. What they said now obviously does not apply today. Think about that.

    Also, it does not help your case gloating that you make more than everyone else on this forum. If you look at my job description it says "Student", so obviously I make less than everyone on this forum.
    Critical thinking? How about logic and common sense? What does a bureaucrat in D.C. know about a local problem in your area that you cannot take care of yourself. That is the point, people making a lot of money give to charities and their churches that benefit the local community. Sending money to D.C. is wasted on social engineering. When are you going to start thinking instead of feeling?

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Well he called on the rich to "pay their fair share" and that is what Obama is doing but it seems that Obama is being called a class warrior and what not... So it must be if your a democrat and you do this your "igniting class warfare" but if your a republican and you do this then there is "nothing wrong"...


    Well tax rates for the rich were higher than the medium and lower classes...


    Uhhhh noo... They were not...
    1982 16% 22% 49% 50% 50%
    1984 14% 18% 42% 45% 50%
    1986 14% 18% 38% 45% 50%
    1988 15% 15% 28% 28% 28%

    Oh yes... "Brainwashed"...
    I would say you are the one that is "brainwashed"...


    Its because he gives you conservatives a hard on im guessing...


    Well look where the great "Reaganomics" have gotten us!!! He did a fine job right
    Love the liberal and in your case socialist talking points. Define FAIR SHARE by putting a number on it? How much should I pay in Federal, State, and Local Taxes? I have seen no evidence that you have a clue. Love kids of today who are experts on every issue yet have never held a real job.

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