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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Actually you have a legal obligation to pay what the law says you should pay.
    that is a rather pitiful argument

    and you seem to ignore that the treatment of capital gains income that you complain about is the law too



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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I find it rather disingenuous that some claim that the government should not "pick" winners or losers by having different tax treatment of different sources of income yet they oppose a flat tax on all income or a consumption tax-both of which would prevent the government engaging in class warfare or pitting one group against another.

    What is obvious is many people try to justify higher rates on dividend or Capital gains income PURELY because a few thousand people have lower taxes than some highly salaried individuals because those few thousand have only investment income and that somehow upsets the class warriors who are mad that a billionaire only paid 18% of his billion dollar income while someone making 200K a year might have paid 20%. (Buffet's secretary would have to be making over 150K for him to come close to being honest and he still paid 35% rate on his 100K salary)

    They ignore that the billionaire paid more actual dollars than 70+ million americans combined but they ignore the fact that 47% of Americans have exactly the same rights as a billionaire but pay less income taxes COMBINED than that one billionaire.

    They are indignant over "unequal tax rates" except when it allows people to have full citizenship rights without paying the dues
    I find it a huge ball of cat crap that the folks that make more dont give to their Country what they should.
    I freakin HATE taxes but at this moment in time its a reality.
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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Please explain Turtle how they created the problems that we have now please?
    too many people want too much government that others are taxed to pay for

    that leads to politicians pandering to the many by promising them more and more handouts combined with a claim that OTHERS will pay for those things



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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Smokified View Post
    If the private sector is not earning money for the government to tax, then where does the money come from?
    We borrow the shortfall.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    I find it a huge ball of cat crap that the folks that make more dont give to their Country what they should.
    I freakin HATE taxes but at this moment in time its a reality.
    Turtle in MY world there would be NO welfare. There would be NO UNIONS. But I live in reality.
    are you really so ignorant as to not understand that the top one percent already pay 40% of the income tax and all the death tax and that the top 5% pay more income tax than the rest of the country put together and you spew this idiotic drivel that they don't pay enough? what percentage of the income tax should the top one percent pay?



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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you miss the obvious point. until the masses suffer tax increases they have no incentive to ever demand less spending
    Spending will subside as the labor market recovers.

    Tax increases and spending cuts will be required to pay our future obligations.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    It won’t hurt the rich to pay more tax but it won’t help the economy either. This is political theater.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    too many people want too much government that others are taxed to pay for

    that leads to politicians pandering to the many by promising them more and more handouts combined with a claim that OTHERS will pay for those things
    how about spending on wars?
    Last edited by Thunder; 09-19-11 at 10:23 PM.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Spending will subside as the labor market recovers.

    Tax increases and spending cuts will be required to pay our future obligations.
    fine-make everyone pay more than

    right now I find those who only want to tax the rich to be shirkers, cowards and dishonest

    they just want others to do the work for them

    and taxing the rich more isn't going to create jobs



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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    how about spending on wars?
    Government spending is ok if you agree with what it is being spent on.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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