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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Noticed that you have continued to ignore my question so let's try again, how has Wall Street speculators affected my SS and Medicare payments? You certainly are outraged over what you perceive as private sector speculators but apparently none of the govt. waste, fraud, abuse, and creation of the dependent class.
    Is that a trick question?I don't receive your SS or Medicare payments you do. So lets move on to why the millionaires should pay more in taxes.Reason #1 if they stole money though speculation, hedge funds, derivatives, predatory lending they should be audited and accessed monetary damages for the scams they knowingly participated in. The scams that robbed the middle class, poor and elderly.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    Is that a trick question?I don't receive your SS or Medicare payments you do. So lets move on to why the millionaires should pay more in taxes.Reason #1 if they stole money though speculation, hedge funds, derivatives, predatory lending they should be audited and accessed monetary damages for the scams they knowingly participated in. The scams that robbed the middle class, poor and elderly.
    Idiotic stereotyping-applying your warped opinion of what a few of the rich did to all of them

    this sort of idiocy only poisons our country. Most millionaires did nothing wrong (and those you damn did nothing wrong either-you just hate investments) and your pathetic attacks on all the rich is disgusting



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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Idiotic stereotyping-applying your warped opinion of what a few of the rich did to all of them

    this sort of idiocy only poisons our country. Most millionaires did nothing wrong (and those you damn did nothing wrong either-you just hate investments) and your pathetic attacks on all the rich is disgusting
    I don't hate any thing or anyone hatred only empowers those to whom it is directed at, I like action better, like the action that is now growing with the occupy Wall Street demonstrations those people under stand what happened and who is responsible for it. I did not damn anyone those who act like parasites and leeches stealing money and jobs from the middle class, poor and elderly knew what they were doing and freely participated and should be forced to return the money they stole and pay for the jobs that were lost

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the majority is often wrong and often makes up the lowest common denominator. Tax cuts to those who pay more than their share of the income is not a gift. Paying for less than you use is a gift. The rich, therefore aren't getting any gifts
    There isn't anyone that isn't blinded by greed that believes that the rich are paying for more than they receive in return, but if it makes you feel like you have some noble cause, go for it!

    Fortunately, the majority rules in this country, it is the final equalizer when things get too far out of control. That was the case following the Great Depression and it appears to be what is happening now following the Great Recession. The majority are fulfilling their civic duty to stand up against failed policy like the 30 years of trickle down economics that has lowered the standard of living for the middle class, pushing many into poverty.
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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    There isn't anyone that isn't blinded by greed that believes that the rich are paying for more than they receive in return, but if it makes you feel like you have some noble cause, go for it!
    To claim people that want free things are not blinded by greed is dishonest you know.

    To claim that people wanting to keep more of what they earn and have what they pay in taxes go towards representing them is greedy is again dishonest.

    To claim the majority of the rich get more in return than they pay in is again dishonest.

    All this just says you're a lier.
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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    To claim people that want free things are not blinded by greed is dishonest you know.

    To claim that people wanting to keep more of what they earn and have what they pay in taxes go towards representing them is greedy is again dishonest.

    To claim the majority of the rich get more in return than they pay in is again dishonest.

    All this just says you're a lier.
    To claim that those who have money to spare and are fighting vigorously to maintain a tax rate lower than it's ever been in 50 years during the midst of an economic crisis are not greedy is dishonest.

    To claim that people who cite that the 50 percent(includes the retired, children, teenagers, those making under 12 thousand a year, and the unemployed) who don't currently pay taxes should "put some in skin in the game" are the ones being taken advantage of is dishonest.

    To claim that the tax contribution made by bleeding the poor dry is more fruitful than a slight increase in the top two percent's taxes is dishonest.

    All this says you can't spell liar.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by alexxouellette View Post
    To claim that those who have money to spare and are fighting vigorously to maintain a tax rate lower than it's ever been in 50 years during the midst of an economic crisis are not greedy is dishonest.
    To claim that the rates affect people in the same way that they did fifty years ago is dishonest. To claim that taxes from those times caused great growth in the country is dishonest. To say anyone has a responsibility to pay more taxes because of hard times is just retarded.

    To claim that people who cite that the 50 percent(includes the retired, children, teenagers, those making under 12 thousand a year, and the unemployed) who don't currently pay taxes should "put some in skin in the game" are the ones being taken advantage of is dishonest.
    To claim I owe them anything because of their situations is dishonest.

    To claim that the tax contribution made by bleeding the poor dry is more fruitful than a slight increase in the top two percent's taxes is dishonest.
    To claim anyone wants to bleed anybody dry that is for low taxation is dishonest.

    To claim that the rich don't already pay more than their fair share is dishonest.

    All this says you can't spell liar.
    lol..

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    1) to claim they have none is a specious lie
    So you think the bottom 50% have money?

    2) you seem not to understand that taxes have at least two purposes

    a) the first is to raise revenue-taxing the poor might not raise much (the Tax cuts however "cost" more for the middle and lower class than the top one percent)

    b) the second is to provide feedback and incentives or dis-incentives. Right now too many people do not receive the proper feedback as to the cost of government. Thus, they demand more and more government because they don't receive any real increases in taxes needed to pay for it
    This is wrong, the rich use more of the services they pay for than anyone else. Who do you think drives the roads to work? Their employees. Who do you think breathes that clean air that they cling to so tightly? Their employees. Who do you think uses food stamps to survive? Their employees. So would it be enslaving the bottom 50% to make them pay for these things or is it fair for the top 1% to pay for their employees to get to work? After all, isn't a salary just a living expense account?

    Wow, that came out a lot better than I thought it would. Have a nice day, off to classes .

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Is that what you learned growing up that your income should be taken from you so that it can be spent elsewhere vs you spending more of your own money in your own community? Where was that ever in the Founders vision of this country? For some reason you and other liberals make claims that you know nothing about. You have no idea how much I give to charity, how much I give to the church, how much I pay in local and state taxes yet you have no problem claiming that I should pay more. I see no reason other than govt. greed for me to pay higher taxes to the govt. that created a 14.6 trillion dollar debt. Explain it to me.
    Stop using the "founders vision". Take a critical thinking class. What they said now obviously does not apply today. Think about that.

    Also, it does not help your case gloating that you make more than everyone else on this forum. If you look at my job description it says "Student", so obviously I make less than everyone on this forum.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Drastic spending cuts need to take place, not taxing the rich more so that more of their money can be sucked into a government that wastes billions of dollars and passes spending bills that do no good. The answer is not to tax and spend, the answer is to spend less and reform the tax code to prevent tax loopholes from being abused.
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