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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

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    tax cuts aren't a gift. getting what you want from the government without paying for it is.
    They are one in the same. That is what a majority of the country thinks needs to change. Just as they did after the collapse in 1929.
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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

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    Yes, running from unsubstantiated gibberish is a bad habit that I just can't seem to break.
    Noticed that you have yet to respond as to why I should be paying more in taxes to the Federal Govt and how much should I be paying in Federal, State, and Local Taxes? You want to attack someone then attack me and tell me why you believe the Federal Govt. needs my money more than I do and what they know about helping those in need in my local community?

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Noticed that you have yet to respond as to why I should be paying more in taxes to the Federal Govt and how much should I be paying in Federal, State, and Local Taxes?
    He has probably simply said that you should pay more federal taxes (assuming you are top 1% income), which I agree with. If you are in the top 1%, the reason you should pay more is because you have more. Your business takes advantage of our system. You take our funded education system and take the employees. Why should you not pay for your employees which you benefit most from? There are a lot of reasons why you should pay higher taxes.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    He has probably simply said that you should pay more federal taxes (assuming you are top 1% income), which I agree with. If you are in the top 1%, the reason you should pay more is because you have more. Your business takes advantage of our system. You take our funded education system and take the employees. Why should you not pay for your employees which you benefit most from? There are a lot of reasons why you should pay higher taxes.
    Is that what you learned growing up that your income should be taken from you so that it can be spent elsewhere vs you spending more of your own money in your own community? Where was that ever in the Founders vision of this country? For some reason you and other liberals make claims that you know nothing about. You have no idea how much I give to charity, how much I give to the church, how much I pay in local and state taxes yet you have no problem claiming that I should pay more. I see no reason other than govt. greed for me to pay higher taxes to the govt. that created a 14.6 trillion dollar debt. Explain it to me.

    Because I have more? Why is it your right or the govt. to tell me how much I should have or how much income I should make? What is my "fair share" of local, state, and Federal Taxes?

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    They are one in the same. That is what a majority of the country thinks needs to change. Just as they did after the collapse in 1929.
    the majority is often wrong and often makes up the lowest common denominator. Tax cuts to those who pay more than their share of the income is not a gift. Paying for less than you use is a gift. The rich, therefore aren't getting any gifts



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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    He has probably simply said that you should pay more federal taxes (assuming you are top 1% income), which I agree with. If you are in the top 1%, the reason you should pay more is because you have more. Your business takes advantage of our system. You take our funded education system and take the employees. Why should you not pay for your employees which you benefit most from? There are a lot of reasons why you should pay higher taxes.
    any person in the top 1% pay more income taxes than at least 60 Million people combined. DO you actually believe a doctor making 500K a year and paying 100K in income taxes actually uses more government services that are funded by the income tax than those 60 million combined even though he pays more FIT than all of them



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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Because I have more? Why is it your right or the govt. to tell me how much I should have or how much income I should make? What is my "fair share" of local, state, and Federal Taxes?
    If you want to enjoy the freedoms, take advantages of the things we offer, and be a part of your society, it is your duty to to pay taxes. Why should you be able to live a healthy live just because you have money? Should a person who has no money that has lived the same life (Say for instance though he didn't land the big job) be punished with no health insurance? Why do you fail to see that existence of mankind cannot continue with corporate greed? Why is it okay for you to take from those who have nothing and give it to those who have everything? That being said, who benefits the most from our public schools, big businesses. I'm sure there are more and that you will deny them all but oh well.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    If you want to enjoy the freedoms, take advantages of the things we offer, and be a part of your society, it is your duty to to pay taxes. Why should you be able to live a healthy live just because you have money? Should a person who has no money that has lived the same life (Say for instance though he didn't land the big job) be punished with no health insurance? Why do you fail to see that existence of mankind cannot continue with corporate greed? Why is it okay for you to take from those who have nothing and give it to those who have everything? That being said, who benefits the most from our public schools, big businesses. I'm sure there are more and that you will deny them all but oh well.
    why does one person have a moral duty to have to spend X hours a year working to support someone else when the first person has done nothing to put the second person in the position he or she is in?

    I understand coercive government and if the majority are parasites, they can vote away the wealth of others but that doesn't make it right



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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    If you want to enjoy the freedoms, take advantages of the things we offer, and be a part of your society, it is your duty to to pay taxes. Why should you be able to live a healthy live just because you have money? Should a person who has no money that has lived the same life (Say for instance though he didn't land the big job) be punished with no health insurance? Why do you fail to see that existence of mankind cannot continue with corporate greed? Why is it okay for you to take from those who have nothing and give it to those who have everything? That being said, who benefits the most from our public schools, big businesses. I'm sure there are more and that you will deny them all but oh well.
    What a bunch of hogwash! I pay more in taxes than you probably make. 47% of the income earners in this country pay zero in FIT so apparently by your standards they aren't enjoying the freedoms and taking advantage of the things we offer?

    Who are you to establish what is fair for someone else to pay in taxes?

    When you talk about greed, why do you leave out liberal greed and govt. greed? What does corporate greed cost you vs govt. greed?

    What am I taking away from someone else? I gave thousands the opportunity to benefit themselves, many did and others didn't. Why should I pay for the clueless?

    Do you think the Federal govt. funds public schools? What do you think my fair share is in Federal, state, and local taxes?
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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    why does one person have a moral duty to have to spend X hours a year working to support someone else when the first person has done nothing to put the second person in the position he or she is in?

    I understand coercive government and if the majority are parasites, they can vote away the wealth of others but that doesn't make it right
    Are you literally going to debate the morality of taxing the rich? (first sentence was not coherent, sorry mate)

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