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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    when some realize they don't have what it takes to be successful they want the government to punish those who are
    Your appeal to emotion, captured by the desperate plight of the rich person facing elimination of a 3% tax cut, is touching. However, taking away a tax cut that was given temporarily is hardly punishing one for being successful when that temporary gift has resulted in unnecessary debt on the part of the giver.
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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    1) they will claim merely existing within a certain distance of you means they are partially responsible for your success

    2) they will claim that if you are successful you must have cheated them

    3) they will claim that the government gives you much more and thus you have to pay more

    4) will mouth the nonsense that from each according to their ability is what matters
    That would mean they are naive, gullible, very misinformed and out of touch with reality. In their world they would rather ignore the waste, fraud, and abuse of the Federal Govt and attack those who have been successful. That is true guilt on their part as well as ignorance.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Your appeal to emotion, captured by the desperate plight of the rich person facing elimination of a 3% tax cut, is touching. However, taking away a tax cut that was given temporarily is hardly punishing one for being successful when that temporary gift has resulted in unnecessary debt on the part of the giver.
    Every post of yours is emotion based upon total lack of facts. How much do you think the Federal, State, and Local Governments should get out of one's personal income? Keep going the way you are and you will get what you want, everyone working for the govt.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the taxes on the most productive were under 30% top marginal rate when Reagan left office
    Close, we had a 50% top marginal tax rate under Reagan, and what were the tax rates on returns from investments and estate taxes compared under Reagan and what they currently are under Obama?

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Close, we had a 50% top marginal tax rate under Reagan, and what were the tax rates on returns from investments and estate taxes compared under Reagan and what they currently are under Obama?

    The Tax Foundation - U.S. Federal Individual Income Tax Rates History, 1913-2011 (Nominal and Inflation-Adjusted Brackets)
    Never in my life have I seen so many people caring so much about how much someone else pays in taxes and with so much passion for raising those taxes to penalize others. If you believe you aren't paying enough in taxes then send more money to the govt. List it as a donation. Tell all those evil rich people to do the same instead of raising taxes on those of us that work hard and actually take care of people in our community in need. Notice how you ran from that argument.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Your appeal to emotion, captured by the desperate plight of the rich person facing elimination of a 3% tax cut, is touching. However, taking away a tax cut that was given temporarily is hardly punishing one for being successful when that temporary gift has resulted in unnecessary debt on the part of the giver.
    Your rants are hilarious but its much more than a 3% hike. the income tax was supposed to be temporary as well. Anyone who trusts the government with more of their money is probably too stupid to be making much in the first place. Only after the government engages in massive cutbacks of entitlements etc should we consider tax hikes-and then on those who aren't paying any income tax now first.

    tax cuts aren't a gift. getting what you want from the government without paying for it is.



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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Close, we had a 50% top marginal tax rate under Reagan, and what were the tax rates on returns from investments and estate taxes compared under Reagan and what they currently are under Obama?

    The Tax Foundation - U.S. Federal Individual Income Tax Rates History, 1913-2011 (Nominal and Inflation-Adjusted Brackets)
    it went down to less than 30% so try being honest. and there were far more deductions and other avoidance mechanisms.

    and people like you are paying far less of the income tax burden now than you did under Reagan



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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Your rants are hilarious but its much more than a 3% hike. the income tax was supposed to be temporary as well. Anyone who trusts the government with more of their money is probably too stupid to be making much in the first place. Only after the government engages in massive cutbacks of entitlements etc should we consider tax hikes-and then on those who aren't paying any income tax now first.
    Seems as though you are better than everyone else.

    tax cuts aren't a gift. getting what you want from the government without paying for it is.
    This is a troll lmao. Turtle, do you not see how it would benefit society as a whole to have socialistic healthcare?
    Last edited by Jryan; 10-04-11 at 10:37 PM. Reason: best way to fix my grammar is to relook at my own post.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    it went down to less than 30% so try being honest. and there were far more deductions and other avoidance mechanisms.

    and people like you are paying far less of the income tax burden now than you did under Reagan
    Your unsubstantiated opinion is noted!
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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Never in my life have I seen so many people caring so much about how much someone else pays in taxes and with so much passion for raising those taxes to penalize others. If you believe you aren't paying enough in taxes then send more money to the govt. List it as a donation. Tell all those evil rich people to do the same instead of raising taxes on those of us that work hard and actually take care of people in our community in need. Notice how you ran from that argument.
    Yes, running from unsubstantiated gibberish is a bad habit that I just can't seem to break.
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