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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

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    As is your total lack of data and lack of understanding of how business and the private sector work. You appear to be a big govt. liberal who has been brainwashed by an ideology that has failed everywhere in the world yet liberal arrogance makes you believe that this group of liberals can do better than the last group. Same results, different players.
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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    Clue for YOU

    The price of crude oil today is not made according to any traditional relation of supply to demand. Itís controlled by an elaborate financial market system as well as by the four major Anglo-American oil companies. As much as 60% of todayís crude oil price is pure speculation driven by large trader banks and hedge funds. It has nothing to do with the convenient myths of Peak Oil. It has to do with control of oil and its price. How?
    First, the role of the international oil exchanges in London and New York is crucial to the game. Nymex in New York and the ICE Futures in London today control global benchmark oil prices which in turn set most of the freely traded oil cargo. They do so via oil futures contracts on two grades of crude oil―West Texas Intermediate and North Sea Brent.

    Are you reading Wall Street Speculators drive up the price of oil= millionaires who have no value to society, leeches who feed off the middle class,poor and elderly, This is just one example of how the rich steal from the middle class and poor
    And they are able to do so with the blessings and BACKING of the very entity that many on here want to grant MORE power to in order to prevent such things from happening.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    whysoserious;1059847661]No he did not. You are just making a bunch of **** up. Yes, he had a campaign slogan of change and whatnot, but that does not mean that you can go around saying he promised things under that giant umbrella of change. He never once promised he would cap unemployment at 8%. As far as the deficit, and I believe he meant the fiscal deficit, not the national deficit. And I think you and I can both agree that steps are being taken in that direction. Of course, this is all way off topic, since topic is basically that you are just making **** up. Obama never promised he would end the recession, you apparently thought he did.
    That is a downright lie. You want so badly to believe what Obama tells you that you ignore actual information from that campaign and the first years of his Administration. Presidential Administration economic advisors

    As the Times reported, in a January 9 report, Romer and Bernstein had predicted "that with the stimulus spending, the U.S. unemployment rate this year would not exceed 8%. It now stands at 9.4%."

    Bush has a higher rating today for doing what? What are people approving of? He does not do anything. You are just a rhetoric machine, my friend.
    Majority Rates Obama ‘Same’ as or ‘Worse’ Than George W. Bush - ABC News

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
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    Saw it and don't disagree, eliminate all loopholes from all individual taxpayers.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I notice you didn't give a link to the Right Wing dickhead that wrote that garbage, but I expect that from you. One day you say you like President Obama and his family and another you post this garbage. Sick. I didn't like Bush, but I would never post sicko stuff like this. Un****ing believable.
    Noticed that you still support the failed Obama administration and are stuck on blaming Bush almost 3 years later. "Your" President is an absolute disaster as his resume showed he would be. You paid no attention to the resume and voted for him anyway. You got what you deserved, the rest of us don't

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    Clue for YOU

    The price of crude oil today is not made according to any traditional relation of supply to demand. Itís controlled by an elaborate financial market system as well as by the four major Anglo-American oil companies. As much as 60% of todayís crude oil price is pure speculation driven by large trader banks and hedge funds. It has nothing to do with the convenient myths of Peak Oil. It has to do with control of oil and its price. How?
    First, the role of the international oil exchanges in London and New York is crucial to the game. Nymex in New York and the ICE Futures in London today control global benchmark oil prices which in turn set most of the freely traded oil cargo. They do so via oil futures contracts on two grades of crude oil―West Texas Intermediate and North Sea Brent.

    Are you reading Wall Street Speculators drive up the price of oil= millionaires who have no value to society, leeches who feed off the middle class,poor and elderly, This is just one example of how the rich steal from the middle class and poor
    Noticed that you have continued to ignore my question so let's try again, how has Wall Street speculators affected my SS and Medicare payments? You certainly are outraged over what you perceive as private sector speculators but apparently none of the govt. waste, fraud, abuse, and creation of the dependent class.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So in your private sector job what happens to your take home pay when FIT is raised? What do you do when you get to keep more of what you earn and do you believe you keeping more of what you earn is an expense to the govt? If you keeping more of what you earn isn't an expense to the govt. then why is someone else keeping more of what they earn an expense to the govt.like many liberals want people to believe as does Obama?
    My consumption wouldn't really change. If anything the addtional taxes would mean less savings.

    I would have no problem with additional taxes unless it became burdensome and as long as spending wasn't out of whack. I don't believe we have a massive spending problem which is the root of where you and I disagree.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    That is a downright lie. You want so badly to believe what Obama tells you that you ignore actual information from that campaign and the first years of his Administration. Presidential Administration economic advisors
    You are funny. Oh man. Hey, can you read that quote you posted? Here, I will do it for you:

    Romer and Bernstein had predicted "that with the stimulus spending, the U.S. unemployment rate this year would not exceed 8%. It now stands at 9.4%."
    Oh ****, are Romer and Bernstein nicknames for Obama? I didn't know! And when did the word "predicted" become a synonym for "promised"? Holy ****! Where have I been!!! Not to mention:

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    Will didn't use the word "promise" as Cantor did when we checked the same claim a year ago, but the meaning is the same, that Obama was offering some sort of guarantee the stimulus would keep the unemployment rate below 8 percent. The administration never characterized it that way and included plenty of disclaimers saying the predictions had "significant margins of error" and a higher degree of uncertainty due to a recession that is "unusual both in its fundamental causes and its severity." In short, it was an economic projection with warnings of a high margin for error, not a take-it-to-the-bank pledge of an upper limit on unemployment.

    So we find Will's claim Barely True.
    So, assuming you cannot read, and I think you have made that case yourself so far, let me explain further. Obama never said this himself, however, his administration did say they believed it would cap at 8%, but they also allowed for a high margin of error. If you still do not get it, then they said this, "We think it will cap at 8%, that is what our numbers tell us, but there is room for a lot of error". Get it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Majority Rates Obama ‘Same’ as or ‘Worse’ Than George W. Bush - ABC News
    Bush does not run anything. Of course his approval rating has gone up. Need I remind you of this:

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    When Bush left office he was right at or under 30% approval rating. Obama began at a 60% approval rating and has dipped a to under 50%, but has actually steadily increased over this year. Any other bull**** you want to spread around or are we done here? Yeah, links and good sources are a good thing to bring to an argument (by the way).

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    My consumption wouldn't really change. If anything the addtional taxes would mean less savings.

    I would have no problem with additional taxes unless it became burdensome and as long as spending wasn't out of whack. I don't believe we have a massive spending problem which is the root of where you and I disagree.
    Really? We don't have a massive spending problem? What is your vision as the role of the Federal Govt. and the State Govt? Any idea how much of the Federal Budget is duplicated at the State level in the state budget? Don't know how anyone can state we don't have a spending problem

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    R What is your vision as the role of the Federal Govt. and the State Govt?
    You seem to ask this alot (like every other post) so what is your vision of these roles?

    BTW I plan on saving your response for future reference.

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