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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Honest question: did he really explicitly say that?

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    And the only reason you believe what that Secret Service agent said is because it fits your view of the world. If it was the other way around you'd say he was an un-American dick and you'd move along.
    Hope and change, hope and change. How is that working out for you and how do you think the 25 PLUS million unemployed and under employed Americans think he is doing. YES, that is what Obama said and ran on. Where were you during the campaign?

    If you want to see what the Secret Service agent said then get the book

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Uh oh is this Reagan and Obama agreeing!
    Reagan agrees to close the tax holes for billion airs and calls on them "to pay their fair share"! Uh oh was Reagan igniting class warfare!?!?
    Oh my!!!

    Nothing wrong with closing loopholes but to penalize one class over another is class warfare. That serves no purpose and that isn't what Reagan did. All were treated the same way and what bothers me is we have a lot of young people here brainwashed against what Reagan actually did. There is a reason his popularity is in the top 10 of all Presidents. Too bad many here didn't live during his term and see what he inherited.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Hope and change, hope and change. How is that working out for you and how do you think the 25 PLUS million unemployed and under employed Americans think he is doing. YES, that is what Obama said and ran on. Where were you during the campaign?
    So, no? I thought as much.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    If you want to see what the Secret Service agent said then get the book
    Why would I want to see that book. Plenty of bad things were written about Bush by people who worked with him, but oddly enough I do not see you quoting them.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Don't make assumptions about me. Am I relatively young? Yes. Do I hold a private sector job? Yes, and it's very relevant to the subject matter we're discussing.
    So in your private sector job what happens to your take home pay when FIT is raised? What do you do when you get to keep more of what you earn and do you believe you keeping more of what you earn is an expense to the govt? If you keeping more of what you earn isn't an expense to the govt. then why is someone else keeping more of what they earn an expense to the govt.like many liberals want people to believe as does Obama?

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Closing loopholes is something entirely different than the so called "Warren Buffet" rule. Obama wants to raise the taxes by percentages, not by just making sure the wealthy pay what they already owe.


    Answer this question, if you think we should extort more money from the wealthy in this country...

    Do you think that those wealthy americans are going to resign themselves to making less money as a result of increased taxes, IE, raising their business expense? Do you think those people are going to sit there and say to themselves "Awe hell, they went and raised our taxes, guess I won't be able to bring home 1.8 mil this year, I'll just have to settle for 1.35."?

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    So, no? I thought as much.



    Why would I want to see that book. Plenty of bad things were written about Bush by people who worked with him, but oddly enough I do not see you quoting them.
    As was stated, it does appear that you ignored the Obama campaign rhetoric and did little research on his promises. yes, he claimed he had the answers. His Administration claimed that passing the stimulus would cap unemployment at 8% and that he would halve the deficit by the end of his first term

    Oddly enough Bush seems to have a higher rating today than Obama as more and more people realize they were sold a bunch of lies during the campaign. There is a reason obama's approval rating is at record lows as he can no longer blame Bush for the results he is generating. Bush looks better each and every day.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Closing loopholes is something entirely different than the so called "Warren Buffet" rule. Obama wants to raise the taxes by percentages, not by just making sure the wealthy pay what they already owe.


    Answer this question, if you think we should extort more money from the wealthy in this country...

    Do you think that those wealthy americans are going to resign themselves to making less money as a result of increased taxes, IE, raising their business expense? Do you think those people are going to sit there and say to themselves "Awe hell, they went and raised our taxes, guess I won't be able to bring home 1.8 mil this year, I'll just have to settle for 1.35."?
    Amazing how little some know about business, how they operate, the risk they take, and the return on their investment. Really is a shame that far too many are getting such a poor education. Many are book smart and street stupid yet the books they believe are full of bs.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You mean the recession that Obama said that he would end and fix. Now we are facing a double dip and you still blame Bush. Here is something to think about

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    Notice the difference according to the Secret Service? Your support for Obama is misguided. He is a true community agitator
    I notice you didn't give a link to the Right Wing dickhead that wrote that garbage, but I expect that from you. One day you say you like President Obama and his family and another you post this garbage. Sick. I didn't like Bush, but I would never post sicko stuff like this. Un****ing believable.


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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    As was stated, it does appear that you ignored the Obama campaign rhetoric and did little research on his promises. yes, he claimed he had the answers. His Administration claimed that passing the stimulus would cap unemployment at 8% and that he would halve the deficit by the end of his first term
    No he did not. You are just making a bunch of **** up. Yes, he had a campaign slogan of change and whatnot, but that does not mean that you can go around saying he promised things under that giant umbrella of change. He never once promised he would cap unemployment at 8%. As far as the deficit, and I believe he meant the fiscal deficit, not the national deficit. And I think you and I can both agree that steps are being taken in that direction. Of course, this is all way off topic, since topic is basically that you are just making **** up. Obama never promised he would end the recession, you apparently thought he did.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Oddly enough Bush seems to have a higher rating today than Obama as more and more people realize they were sold a bunch of lies during the campaign. There is a reason obama's approval rating is at record lows as he can no longer blame Bush for the results he is generating. Bush looks better each and every day.
    Bush has a higher rating today for doing what? What are people approving of? He does not do anything. You are just a rhetoric machine, my friend.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    And I am going to continue to focus on the 14.6 TRILLION dollar budget debt created by a govt. who has higher poverty today in spite of all the spending on the Great Society War on Poverty. You need to go down to Wall Street and protest with the other misinformed individuals there. You don't have a clue.

    Still waiting for how Wall Street affects my SS and Medicare. Keep dodging and running.
    Clue for YOU

    The price of crude oil today is not made according to any traditional relation of supply to demand. Itís controlled by an elaborate financial market system as well as by the four major Anglo-American oil companies. As much as 60% of todayís crude oil price is pure speculation driven by large trader banks and hedge funds. It has nothing to do with the convenient myths of Peak Oil. It has to do with control of oil and its price. How?
    First, the role of the international oil exchanges in London and New York is crucial to the game. Nymex in New York and the ICE Futures in London today control global benchmark oil prices which in turn set most of the freely traded oil cargo. They do so via oil futures contracts on two grades of crude oil―West Texas Intermediate and North Sea Brent.

    Are you reading Wall Street Speculators drive up the price of oil= millionaires who have no value to society, leeches who feed off the middle class,poor and elderly, This is just one example of how the rich steal from the middle class and poor

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