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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

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    Over the time I have been here Earl, I have learned the value that Turtledude brings to the election campaign. You've seen his posts...........could there be a better example for the moderates and independent working class not to vote for the positions expressed in his posts???

    Just relish each time he says the working class are pathetic leeches.
    Yeah this forum is stocked full of the "feed me feed me" little bird voters who are going to get upset



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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You freely use both phrases in your posts.
    Normally to rebut the claims of those who base their parasitic desires upon such terms



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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So what? Some income has been collected in a legal manner from the very wealthy and has been utilized to run the peoples government and spend it on programs approved and endorsed by the peoples government.

    If the very wealthy do indeed - as you put it - NEED the money than they have now - despite it being more than 95 to 98% of the American people have - they need some good lessons in money management and budgeting. After all, that is how you folks on the right keep turning the tables on the US government. You righties keep preaching that the government has plenty of money, they do NOT need more, they simply need to manage it better and spend it more wisely. So this same principle should apply to the very wealthy and part of their built in spending should be taxation which benefits this nation and its people.
    Such a claim would have maybe an iota of legitimacy if it was only applied to those making millions a week. But your party is targeting (and those most affected, in terms of monetary impact and numbers) those making between 200K and a few million a year who are not making more than they could ever spend



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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    "Like Warren Buffett, hip hop mogul Russell Simmons, whose net worth is estimated at $340 million, is calling on President Obama to raise his taxes. “For far too long in this country we have allowed the rich to get richer and the poor to get poorer,” Simmons wrote, calling on policymakers to preserve social safety net programs for the most needy. Simmons, who has also joined with the Occupy Wall Street protests, appeared on MSNBC today to discuss his cause. “All my employees — every single one — paid more taxes than I did,” he said, noting that he donated $10 million to charity and thus received big tax breaks. “We need to make the rich pay their fair share.”

    Simmons also shot down conservative claims that raising taxes on the wealthy would hurt job creation, saying he makes all his hiring decisions based on pre-tax, not post-tax income."

    LOL, this guy speaks for everyone who actually earns 200K or more a year. Since there is a 95% chance he voted for Obama all I can say is BFD



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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Thanks to mike for agreeing with me that both sides of the ledger need to be looked at.
    answer the question about the effect on local sales taxes from an earlier post.

    Hay, I may agree both sides of ledger needs to be looked at, but I have continued to say cut spending first. Now, what about it since you support raising federal taxes. Could this not harm local and State govt that rely on sales taxes?

    your like a politician. You respond to what you like and dodge the most important parts.
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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    answer the question about the effect on local sales taxes.

    Hay, I may agree both sides of ledger needs to be looked at, but I have continued to say cut spending first. Now, what about it since you support raising federal taxes. Could this not harm local and State govt that rely on sales taxes?
    Here is the deal

    dems need to keep spending to buy the votes of their constituents who tend to be those who want handouts in large numbers

    to "justify" this increased spending, the dems have to pretend to pay for it and jacking up taxes on the rich is how they will



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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Here is the deal

    dems need to keep spending to buy the votes of their constituents who tend to be those who want handouts in large numbers

    to "justify" this increased spending, the dems have to pretend to pay for it and jacking up taxes on the rich is how they will
    You are right
    jacking up taxes on the rich is how they will
    In the United States, President Barack Obama has called for a new minimum tax called the "Buffett Rule" for American households that make more than $1 million annually. A recent USA Today/Gallup poll showed 66 percent of Americans support increasing income taxes for wealthy individuals.
    66% of Americans, can you read that, grab your money and run, opps read on it does not appear that you can out run your taxes

    U.S. citizens are liable to U.S. tax wherever they are in the world, making it virtually impossible for them to become legal tax exiles -- a possibility open to Europeans, many of whom have set up home in tax havens like Monaco and Britain's Channel Islands.
    Americans cannot even escape these obligations by renouncing their citizenship, says Sydney E. Unger, a partner in the tax department of New York law firm Kaye Scholer LLP.
    "If you want to renounce...you have to file tax returns for (the) last five years, and there is now an imposed exit tax. If you have a lot of assets, you have to pay tax on them as if you had sold them," he said.

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    You are right



    66% of Americans, can you read that, grab your money and run, opps read on it does not appear that you can out run your taxes
    we get the fact that you think other people ought to fund your existence



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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    we get the fact that you think other people ought to fund your existence
    I started working at 8 years of age, at 13 I had my first full time job, I have worked my entire life, I never took a penny from my parents or you or any of your buddies, the difference between you and me is that I under stand how fortunate I have been. You worship money I worship life, I feel compassion for those less fortunate then I you feel contempt for those less fortunate. I know that it takes every one to protect our country you think you can buy protection

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    Re: White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    I started working at 8 years of age, at 13 I had my first full time job, I have worked my entire life, I never took a penny from my parents or you or any of your buddies, the difference between you and me is that I under stand how fortunate I have been. You worship money I worship life, I feel compassion for those less fortunate then I you feel contempt for those less fortunate. I know that it takes every one to protect our country you think you can buy protection
    You piss and moan about the rich constantly. You think the rich sit around their golf clubs figuring out ways to piss on your head and put their boots on your neck



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