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    Re: Last Ford Crown Victoria rolls of the assembly line

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    You would suggest legislation preventing or limiting manufacture outside of the US, but you are for freedom?

    Sounds fairly statist to me
    Not at all. I never said that I would suggest legislation to prevent or limit manufacture outside of the U.S. What I would do is offer legislation to provide incentives for companies to stay in or return to the U.S. Those incentives have to do with policies regarding taxation and regulation.

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    Re: Last Ford Crown Victoria rolls of the assembly line

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    The HHR is a size larger then the Mini

    The Cobalt SS would be the closest competitor to the Mini in the GM lineup (past of course). Other options would have been the VW GTI, Mazda Mazdaspeed 3, Subaru Impreza WRX and a few others. Next year Ford is coming out with the Focus STi which should be good
    Yes it is a size larger than that fiberglass coffin. My boss owns one and I've refused to ride in it TWICE, because it's too small to be truly SAFE so far as I'm concerned. Those micro-cars are just patently unsafe in my mind. You get hit by a box truck or anything larger and they'll be wiping you up with a spatula.

    The only car you mentioned that I would willingly drive is the Cobalt. When I bought my HHR three years ago I spent two months looking at vehicles before I made the choice. There wasn't a single FOREIGN car on the list of vehicles I looked at.

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    Re: Last Ford Crown Victoria rolls of the assembly line

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    Last Ford Crown Victoria rolls off the line in Ontario; factory closes | Detroit Free Press | freep.com

    This stalwart of the American car industry is now history. Many thousands will be available in the fleet aftermarket for years to come, but the old girl is finally out of production.

    Last of the large rear wheel drive sedans, the Crown Vic suffered imo from a lack of interest by Ford to freshen up the vehicle, condemning it to heavy duty fleet use by virtue of its low cost to own. It sported an ultra reliable engine and transmission, at the expense of so so driving dynamics, dull as dishwater interior and poor fuel economy. Unless drove nothing but flat out runs on the highway or you had very little to spend on a used car, the Vic was a poor choice for transportation.

    However, some people bemoan the loss of the Vic. Are you one of those? Did you like the Vic? Why or why not?
    They will have to tell the folks at the doughnut shops to be on the lookout for another type of patrol car.

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    Re: Last Ford Crown Victoria rolls of the assembly line

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Oh goody! I cannot wait for my dividend checks to start arriving. When will that be?
    You're already getting dividends, in the sense that over a million Americans are still employed and GM is still building cars.

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    Re: Last Ford Crown Victoria rolls of the assembly line

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Not at all. I never said that I would suggest legislation to prevent or limit manufacture outside of the U.S. What I would do is offer legislation to provide incentives for companies to stay in or return to the U.S. Those incentives have to do with policies regarding taxation and regulation.
    Great. And then Japan, Germany, and S. Korea offer incentives to their car manufacturers to quit producing in the U.S....

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    Re: Last Ford Crown Victoria rolls of the assembly line

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    You're already getting dividends, in the sense that over a million Americans are still employed and GM is still building cars.
    I understand they are still building cars, but I do not have any part of the ownership.

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    Re: Last Ford Crown Victoria rolls of the assembly line

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    I understand they are still building cars, but I do not have any part of the ownership.
    I disagree. The government still owns about 30% of the company, and the government belongs to us.

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    Re: Last Ford Crown Victoria rolls of the assembly line

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I disagree. The government still owns about 30% of the company, and the government belongs to us.
    Great! When do the dividend checks begin from the government? And, I would really like to talk to the directors at the Board of Directors meeting. Who do I contact for that?

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    Re: Last Ford Crown Victoria rolls of the assembly line

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Great. And then Japan, Germany, and S. Korea offer incentives to their car manufacturers to quit producing in the U.S....
    Why would they do that?

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    Re: Last Ford Crown Victoria rolls of the assembly line

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Great! When do the dividend checks begin from the government? And, I would really like to talk to the directors at the Board of Directors meeting. Who do I contact for that?
    Many stocks, including GMs common stock, don't pay dividends. Meanwhile, with the government owning 30% of the company, you probably have more say in it than you would if you owned a couple hundred shares personally.

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