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    Re: Last Ford Crown Victoria rolls of the assembly line

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Damn those Chicken Littles!!
    Yes, it's the fault of environmentalists that nobody wants to buy old, inefficient, ugly cars.
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    Re: Last Ford Crown Victoria rolls of the assembly line

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    I have driven large Ford Motor manufactured cars for umpteen years now and I have loved every one of them My daughter's Dodge caught fire while she drove down the freeway. No thanks. I will take a Ford any day of the week over Chrysler or Government Motors. But, that's just my opinion.
    I'll bet she got hot over that incident.
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    Re: Last Ford Crown Victoria rolls of the assembly line

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Yes, it's the fault of environmentalists that nobody wants to buy old, inefficient, ugly cars.
    You are correct. It is the fault of environmentalists. First they get their liberal buddies in Congress to enact C.A.F.E. standards to force the automotive companies to discontinue manufacturing comfortable and safe vehicles and then they get those same liberal buddies to restrict exploration, drilling, and refining so that the price of gasoline rises beyond what it should. Nice arrangment for tyrants.

    Besides, if environmentalists were truly interested in the environment and saving on energy, they would want to dictate that everybody ride bicycles and ban all cars, as well as air conditioning and heating in homes using gas or electric. But hyprocrites don't want to inconvenience themselves. Instead of actually reducing serious energy use and minimizing pollution that will kill us in the near future, the environmental whackos would rather force people to purchase very, very expensive lightbulbs. Dumb!!

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    Re: Last Ford Crown Victoria rolls of the assembly line

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I'll bet she got hot over that incident.
    Well, she got out safely, but the car was destroyed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    You are correct. It is the fault of environmentalists. First they get their liberal buddies in Congress to enact C.A.F.E. standards to force the automotive companies to discontinue manufacturing comfortable and safe vehicles and then they get those same liberal buddies to restrict exploration, drilling, and refining so that the price of gasoline rises beyond what it should. Nice arrangment for tyrants.

    Besides, if environmentalists were truly interested in the environment and saving on energy, they would want to dictate that everybody ride bicycles and ban all cars, as well as air conditioning and heating in homes using gas or electric. But hyprocrites don't want to inconvenience themselves. Instead of actually reducing serious energy use and minimizing pollution that will kill us in the near future, the environmental whackos would rather force people to purchase very, very expensive lightbulbs. Dumb!!
    The Crown Victoria was not very safe

    2007 Ford Crown Victoria Safety Ratings

    The Toyota Camry is far safer

    2008 Toyota Camry Safety Ratings

    Heck even the far smaller Honda Civic is a safer vehicle

    2008 Honda Civic Safety Ratings



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    Re: Last Ford Crown Victoria rolls of the assembly line

    To reinforce what Lord Tammerlain said, large ≠ safe. Only in head on collisions does weight (and thus momentum) tend to help reduce injury, but it is far more a factor of safety engineering than size. I would much rather get into a wreck in ANY compact car made today than in the whales of the 50's, 60's and 70's. Accident injuries in this era were particularly horrific, as momentum would often impale drivers into steering wheels (breakaway steering wheels and airbags serve to eliminate this hazard), shards of glass would shred flesh and puncture blood vessels (safety glass keeps the glass intact and/or causes it to break into squares rather than shards, thus significantly reducing their ability to penetrate flesh), and head on collisions would cause the entire motor to ram into the passenger cabin and crush the occupants (breakaway motor mounts that direct crash energy up and down...ever wonder why the hoods of cars in front end collisions make that tent? They are designed that way so that the edge of the sheet metal doesn't enter the cabin and cut passengers heads off.)

    Hooray for modern engineering, hooray for science.

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    Re: Last Ford Crown Victoria rolls of the assembly line

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    To reinforce what Lord Tammerlain said, large ≠ safe. Only in head on collisions does weight (and thus momentum) tend to help reduce injury, but it is far more a factor of safety engineering than size. I would much rather get into a wreck in ANY compact car made today than in the whales of the 50's, 60's and 70's. Accident injuries in this era were particularly horrific, as momentum would often impale drivers into steering wheels (breakaway steering wheels and airbags serve to eliminate this hazard), shards of glass would shred flesh and puncture blood vessels (safety glass keeps the glass intact and/or causes it to break into squares rather than shards, thus significantly reducing their ability to penetrate flesh), and head on collisions would cause the entire motor to ram into the passenger cabin and crush the occupants (breakaway motor mounts that direct crash energy up and down...ever wonder why the hoods of cars in front end collisions make that tent? They are designed that way so that the edge of the sheet metal doesn't enter the cabin and cut passengers heads off.)

    Hooray for modern engineering, hooray for science.
    agree with all of the above.

    however, part of me does wish they could make them look like they used to. finding a car that doesn't look like every other piece of plastic on the road with a grey plastic interior can be a real challenge.

    when i bought my most recent car, i wanted something quick, good on fuel for commuting, and distinctively stylish so that i would want to drive it every day. in my price range, that left the mini cooper s and not much else. seems like there should be a lot of cars built for that niche, but there just aren't.

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    Re: Last Ford Crown Victoria rolls of the assembly line

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    agree with all of the above.

    however, part of me does wish they could make them look like they used to. finding a car that doesn't look like every other piece of plastic on the road with a grey plastic interior can be a real challenge.

    when i bought my most recent car, i wanted something quick, good on fuel for commuting, and distinctively stylish so that i would want to drive it every day. in my price range, that left the mini cooper s and not much else. seems like there should be a lot of cars built for that niche, but there just aren't.
    In europe there is

    Next year Hyundia is introducing the Veloster which when equiped with the expected turbo engine should be quite good
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    Re: Last Ford Crown Victoria rolls of the assembly line

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    The Crown Victoria was not very safe

    2007 Ford Crown Victoria Safety Ratings

    The Toyota Camry is far safer

    2008 Toyota Camry Safety Ratings

    Heck even the far smaller Honda Civic is a safer vehicle

    2008 Honda Civic Safety Ratings
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    Re: Last Ford Crown Victoria rolls of the assembly line

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Whenever I can, I buy American. I don't want to ever see you bitchin' about jobs going overseas or money going to foreign countries when car is manufactured in U.S.
    And, I also said comfortable. You go drive a Camry or a Civic. As for me, no thanks.

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