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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Taxing low income people more? Poor income people DON'T PAY ANY FEDERAL INCOME TAXES! The Clinton years worked great because Clinton gave us a GOP Congress or did you forget?
    right, they might not, but you sure seem to want them to! that's a mantra with you and others on this board, bitching about what the poor don't pay. thanks for conceding my point. YOU WANT THEM TO PAY MORE TAXES.

    i know that during the clinton years, at least before the vendetta, we had compromise in govt that we've not seen since. purely because the gop decided they would go after what they wanted, instead of attempting to govern responsibly.
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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

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    Can you explain to me why liberals always are more concerned about tax revenue to the govt. and class warfare than doing what is right which is cutting the size of govt? The difference is quite clear between Republicans and Democrats, Republicans don't care what liberals make or pay in taxes whereas liberals are all about jealousy of what someone else makes or pays in taxes.

    We currently have a 3.7 trillion dollar Federal Govt. and until liberals realize that no amount of money will ever satisfy the liberal spending appetite we are going to continue to have a divide between Democrats and Republicans.

    When you say it didn't work then, please be specific, what didn't work? GDP Doubled, Govt. revenue doubled, 17 million jobs were created after the worst recession since the Great Depression and job losses the first two years?

    When will liberals realize we have a spending problem and not a revenue problem? Until the govt. gets spending under control why send them any more money to waste? There is no evidence that sending the govt. more money will ever be put to deficit reduction as politicians are more concerned about keeping their jobs by buying votes instead of doing their job.
    Why exactly should I answer any question of yours if you refuse to answer mines?
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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    nothing should be off the table? if the democrats propose nuking china so as to cancel our debt to them, should Republicans seek to compromise on only taking out their eastern seaboard?


    I'm just curious at what point you would agree that really stupid ideas that will actually destroy wealth, growth, and employment should, indeed, actually "be off the table".
    Sure, we can be as absurd as we want. But I think the "nothing off the table" was a statement taking reason as a given. No one is going to propose that we nuke China, or release a virus, or systematically kill our homeless, poor, and old. So barring the absurd, things such as tax hikes should not be taken off the table because they may be necessary or at the very least are part of reasonable discourse and debate for debt reduction.
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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

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    The size of Govt. is 3.7 trillion dollars and the debt is almost equal to GDP. Why do we need a 3.7 trillion dollar govt/
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    When was the last time Conservatives reduced the size of government? Or do you just mean getting rid of things like Social Security and Medicare? I do think that government in general can be downsized quite a bit; but I don't see those actions taken by either side of the Republocrats.
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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    right, they might not, but you sure seem to want them to! that's a mantra with you and others on this board, bitching about what the poor don't pay. thanks for conceding my point. YOU WANT THEM TO PAY MORE TAXES.

    i know that during the clinton years, at least before the vendetta, we had compromise in govt that we've not seen since. purely because the gop decided they would go after what they wanted, instead of attempting to govern responsibly.
    You don't seem to get it I am not bitching about the poor not paying taxes I am bitching about the govt. spending too much money. Look, I think you are a good person but you sure have been brainwashed into believing the liberal rhetoric that we need more money which is code word for "Hey, I support the current size of the govt!"

    Your revisionist history about the Clinton years is a problem today because all it does is divert from the Obama record and agenda. Why do you believe sending more money to the govt. with 25 plus million unemployed and under employed Americans makes any sense at all? This is class warfare and a step towards socialism and the question is do you really believe it thus are part of the problem or are you just brainwashed into believing the liberal rhetoric?

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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    Why exactly should I answer any question of yours if you refuse to answer mines?
    I have answered your question, you blaim Reagan when you don't even know what the Reagan record was. You think 1.7 trillion added to the debt in 8 years justifies the 4 trillion Obama has added to the debt in less than 3? So tell me exactly what didn't work during the Reagan years, the 17 million jobs created, the doubling of GDP, the incentive for individual wealth creation? Do you really believe the leftwing ideology or have you been brainwashed?

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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
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    When was the last time Conservatives reduced the size of government? Or do you just mean getting rid of things like Social Security and Medicare? I do think that government in general can be downsized quite a bit; but I don't see those actions taken by either side of the Republocrats.
    I mean taking SS and Medicare off budget and quit using the funds in the General Budget, that would be the first step. Then I would quit blaming everyone else for the failures of this Administration and quit promoting class warfare. Today we have a 3.7 trillion dollar govt. and the last Bush budget without TARP and the STimulus plan was 3.1 trillion and that includes military funding for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars plus SS and Medicare revenue.

    You obviously didn't read the Ryan Budget nor the Cut, Cap, and balance proposal since neither got Presidential or Senate support. I suggest doing better research vs. buying media rhetoric.

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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    perhaps you can show me where we had a reduction of revenue?



    because I'm not seeing it.
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    see chart above. tax rates do not directly determine revenue.
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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

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    I have answered your question, you blaim Reagan when you don't even know what the Reagan record was. You think 1.7 trillion added to the debt in 8 years justifies the 4 trillion Obama has added to the debt in less than 3? So tell me exactly what didn't work during the Reagan years, the 17 million jobs created, the doubling of GDP, the incentive for individual wealth creation? Do you really believe the leftwing ideology or have you been brainwashed?
    You didn't answer anything, you just posed questions.

    Are you suggesting Reagan didn't increase the budget deficit?
    Are you suggesting Bush 1 didn't increase the budget deficit?
    Are you suggesting Bush 2 didn't increase the budget deficit?

    In addition, did any of these 3 elected officials believe in reducing regulations and cutting taxes to stimulate the economy? Are the Republicans of today requesting the same solution as the above 3 presidents?

    I know the answer to all of the above is YES, but maybe you have a different prespective than the truth.

    If you're upset with budget busting ideas, you cannot blame Democrat Presidents. The 2 within the time frame I described, only Carter and Clinton "ran" the government. Both reduced the budget deficit.

    Which party do you trust?
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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

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    You didn't answer anything, you just posed questions.

    Are you suggesting Reagan didn't increase the budget deficit?
    Are you suggesting Bush 1 didn't increase the budget deficit?
    Are you suggesting Bush 2 didn't increase the budget deficit?
    I am not suggesting that at all because the facts show it.

    Reagan added 1.7 trillion to the debt in 8 years-Divided Congress
    Bush one added 1.4 trillion to the debt in 4 years-Democrat controlled Congress
    Clinton added 1.3 trillion to the debt in 8 years, GOP Congress from 1995-2000
    GW Bush added 4.9 trillion to the debt in 8 years-GOP Congress 2003-2007, Democrats controlled Congress 2007-2008
    Obama has added 4 trillion to the debt in 3 years-Democrats with overwhelminng numbers 2009-2010

    So what is your point? Your statement was on Reagan so tell me how 1.7 trillion added to the debt in 8 years is worse than 4 trillion added in three?

    In addition, did any of these 3 elected officials believe in reducing regulations and cutting taxes to stimulate the economy? Are the Republicans of today requesting the same solution as the above 3 presidents?
    Let's hope so, the only way to get out of debt is to cut spending and grow the economy. That is what Reagan did but you were probably too young to realize that.

    I know the answer to all of the above is YES, but maybe you have a different prespective than the truth.

    If you're upset with budget busting ideas, you cannot blame Democrat Presidents. The 2 within the time frame I described, only Carter and Clinton "ran" the government. Both reduced the budget deficit.

    Which party do you trust?
    If you know the answer then give them.

    Like all liberals you just don't get it, by the way Reagan inherited a 900 billion debt from Carter. Which party do I trust, Democrat or Republican? Republican for all Democrats have done is promote class warfare and class envy. Why would you support a party that pits classes against each other instead of working towards the betterment of all?

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