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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

    I am for a balanced approach to solve the deficit so something like 50/50 spending cuts to tax increases or 60/40. I think both cuts have to be made and taxes have to be raised to solve the deficit problem.

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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    doesnt matter, as you are trying to defend the republicans....both are guilty of deficit spending, but you give a pass to one, and not the other, why is that? " but but but they do it too!!" or "but but but they spend more!!!" is not a justification or an adequate defense for your blind loyalty .
    What do you mean it doesn't matter? Of course it matters, the party that spent less is the Republican Party so why would you support Obama for a second term?

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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Some people have yet to realize that when you charge a thousand dollars on a credit card it can cost you tens of thousands later if not paid back in a reasonable amount of time. Obama got handed a delinquent credit card from Bush and his minions are fighting as hard as they can to pass that buck.
    it is like i tried to explain to con earlier, both bases need to hear some painful truths, spending needs to be cut, and taxes raised/revenue increased.....con wants to pretend that only cuts need to happen, that we are realistically going to gut a trillion dollars out of the budget, and that we won't feel any fallout from it....like i said in an earlier post, we cut taxes, we cut them again, and again, and then some more, and where has that gotten us? both sides continue to spend(con thinks it is ok as long as it is a republican doing the spending)...with the repub mantra of 'tax cuts cure everything', it is akin to someone who has taken out a loan on a 200,000 dollar home, and as soon as they sign the papers, go into work, and ask to be put on part time hours , knowing that they now have a mortgage to pay on..we continue to spend, but deny ourselves the ability to pay for said spending.

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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Some people have yet to realize that when you charge a thousand dollars on a credit card it can cost you tens of thousands later if not paid back in a reasonable amount of time. Obama got handed a delinquent credit card from Bush and his minions are fighting as hard as they can to pass that buck.
    Really? Do you understand that deficits are yearly and debt is cumulative? Obama was handed a 10.6 trillion debt that is now 14.6 trillion in 3 years. You think that 10.6 trillion had 4 trillion in debt service? What do you think made up that 4 trillion dollars in debt that has been created over the past 3 years? the only one trying to pass the buck is Obama who claims not to be responsible at all. Obama and Democrats supported the 2009 budget that they blame Bush for and they were in control of Congress at the time therefore the 2009 deficit was both Obama's and Bush's.

    I am still trying to figure out why anyone would believe anything Obama says.

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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So again, your point isn't that the Republican party has practiced any amount of conservative fiscal responsibility; it's that they won't take us to hell as quickly. That's not really a ringing endorsement.
    Unfortunately that is what we are dealing with since there is no viable third party that has a chance to win. So you vote for the party that is better than the other one and that is the Republican Party.

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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What do you mean it doesn't matter? Of course it matters, the party that spent less is the Republican Party so why would you support Obama for a second term?
    again, "but but but they spend more!!" is not a defense...at this point and time, i do not feel the republican party has my best interests at heart.

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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Well, as long as the rich don't have to go to hell with the rest of the world, they don't care.
    How much are the rich going to add to the Federal Treasury and do you want to take a shot at what their fair share is? Then tell me what the fair share is for the 47% that don't pay any FIT?

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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    again, "but but but they spend more!!" is not a defense...at this point and time, i do not feel the republican party has my best interests at heart.
    So spending more is in your best interest? Thanks, you are a liberal, no centrist.

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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    How much are the rich going to add to the Federal Treasury and do you want to take a shot at what their fair share is? Then tell me what the fair share is for the 47% that don't pay any FIT?
    It's not the rich, per se, I got a problem with. Hell, I wanna be rich too. It's the system in place that is lopsided to create more riches for the rich as it sucks my property values and retirement funds dry. Level this god damn playing field. The Grand Obstructionist Party are so deep in the pockets of the corporate traitors they have forgotten about the average American whom this nation was built off the backs of. But you just keep voting for them. Eventually, Americans will defeat you all. One way or another. After all, we ARE Americans. We will survive and we will conquer.

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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Unfortunately that is what we are dealing with since there is no viable third party that has a chance to win. So you vote for the party that is better than the other one and that is the Republican Party.
    Besed on all your posts, your views and your political leans, I strongly suspect that if we had ten different parties - all with an equal chance to win that you still would be happy to vote Republican?
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