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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    And the Republicans are doing something different? Both are pandering to their party and pointing fingers at the other side claiming it's all their faults while doing nothing to actually fix the problem. That's what we get with the Republocrats, a lot of finger pointing and words...no action. Both sides engage in this behavior and somehow people want to pretend that Republicans and Democrats ain't the same pile of ****.
    Have we gotten action from the Democrats?

    Oh, wait; yes we have, lots of action. How's that worked out for the country, so far?
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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    What proposals has your party come up with that will make a difference? Anything? Anything? Didn't think so.
    Opening up drilling, lossening job killing regulations, stop trying to raise taxes on people every other month; just a few off the top of my head.

    The biggest thing the Republicans have going for them, is that they know the government can't fix the economy, nor create jobs.
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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    What proposals has your party come up with that will make a difference? Anything? Anything? Didn't think so.
    I asked you for your proposals and get nothing but more whining. For your information I don't have a party, I am a conservative but vote Republican because they are the better alternative. Think about it, Gore, Kerry, and Obama. Why would you vote for them? Staying home or voting for a third party just assures those leftwing nuts get elected and re-elected

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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

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    Opening up drilling, lossening job killing regulations, stop trying to raise taxes on people every other month; just a few off the top of my head.

    The biggest thing the Republicans have going for them, is that they know the government can't fix the economy, nor create jobs.
    That sad belief is the biggest thing the GOP has going for them?!?!?!?!?!? And how does that translate into some sort of asset?
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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    What proposals has your party come up with that will make a difference? Anything? Anything? Didn't think so.
    And this is exactly my point... well, part of my point.

    We can do absolutely nothing. This would be mean a slow and agonizingly slow recovery (or us sinking back into a recession).

    Or we can do something.

    The options presented are defunding and dismantling America's safety nets and weakening government agencies in an effort to save money when we currently already have an infrastructure that is near collapse. Cut regulations right after we just came from a near depression enabled by a lack of oversight and regulations. This is what the Republicans are in support of.

    The other option is to borrow more money and get people back to work in an effort to stimulate the economy to pull us out of any immediate danger while fixing our aging and decreipt nation. Raise taxes on the wealthiest of us to further support this action, while cutting some useless government agencies and maintaining our countries safety nets. This is what Obama is offering.

    I choose to act. Whichever party is trying to do something for the majority of Americans, is the party I'll support.
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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Opening up drilling, lossening job killing regulations, stop trying to raise taxes on people every other month; just a few off the top of my head.
    Which part of this has NOT been tried already?

    The biggest thing the Republicans have going for them, is that they know the government can't fix the economy, nor create jobs.
    The bolded part makes no sense.
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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Have we gotten action from the Democrats?

    Oh, wait; yes we have, lots of action. How's that worked out for the country, so far?
    Same as if we had Republicans in charge instead.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Same as if we had Republicans in charge instead.
    How are you coming on that list of solutions to solve our problems. Would hope that a PHD would have something positive to offer.

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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

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    I asked you for your proposals and get nothing but more whining. For your information I don't have a party, I am a conservative but vote Republican because they are the better alternative. Think about it, Gore, Kerry, and Obama. Why would you vote for them? Staying home or voting for a third party just assures those leftwing nuts get elected and re-elected
    You have a party, it's the Republicans. You won't vote third party or Democrat; thus you are Republican. I'll ask again, what proposals has your party (the Republicans) come up with that would make a difference?

    You can ask for my proposals all you want, but my proposals and your proposals mean NOTHING as neither of us are in office. You support the Republicans, you claim them to be a better solution, you rally against Obama. So tell me, what plan have the Republicans come up with that would be of help? If you can't answer the question, then you just prove that the Republicans and Democrats are equally useless and neither deserve my vote.

    If you're going to whine that my voting third party gets Obama and whatever elected, fine. In fact, GOOD. I hope it does. Maybe YOU and your PARTY will learn then that if they want to win, they're gonna need MY vote. And if you want MY vote, you best damned well put the best candidate of the entire political arena out there, the one which will best echo my political beliefs and platforms. Because if there is someone better, I will vote for them (that's REALLY what it means to have "no party", not this crap you claim about not having one but blindly voting Republican even if it means the demise of the Republic). If you don't want to lose, start putting up better candidates.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Opening up drilling, lossening job killing regulations, stop trying to raise taxes on people every other month; just a few off the top of my head.

    The biggest thing the Republicans have going for them, is that they know the government can't fix the economy, nor create jobs.
    Government has plenty of jobs. It's probably one of the biggest employers in the country. Government CAN fix the economy, in fact it's part of the Fed's responsibilities (balance inflation and unemployment, though lately they seemed to have forgotten that last step). Just because the current incarnation of the government composed of the Republocrats is retarded and broken and can't do these things does not mean government in general cannot.

    And you posted nothing specific other than the same tired talking points we hear the Republicans spout off all the time complete with hyperbole. We have a lower tax burden now than under Reagan...where's our jobs? Less regulation too. In fact, that's one reason why the banks took such a huge hit when the economy collaspsed, we removed ther leverage regulations and the leveraged too high and felt the burn. Then the government (Republicans and Democrats alike!) took our money and gave it to them even though THEY had acted irresponsibly. The Republocrats removed their consequence of action while crippling the rest of us.

    Now that their buddies in Wall Street and the Banks and the big corporations have been taken care of. Their CEO pals not slightly poorer nor held to the consequences of their actions, what hurry are the Republocrats in to help US? The rest of America is hurting, the common man on the street is hurting, but all we get is bitching from both sides of the Republocrats and no action to solve the problem.

    Thanks for nothing, all you prove is that the Republocrats are useless, worthless, and unworthy of my vote.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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