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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    He should as it's been explained to him often enough. One can only surmise that he's intentionally deceptive.
    Right, here are the Clinton deficits by year according to the checkbook of the United States

    Government - Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)

    1/20/1993 4,188,092,107,183.60
    9/30/1993 4,411,488,883,139.38


    10/1/1993 4,406,339,573,433.47
    9/30/1994 4,692,749,910,013.32

    9/30/1994 4,692,749,910,013.32
    10/2/1995 4,987,587,163,002.89


    10/2/1995 4,987,587,163,002.89
    10/1/1996 5,234,730,786,626.50

    10/1/1996 5,234,730,786,626.50
    10/1/1997 5,420,505,789,573.34

    10/1/1997 5,420,505,789,573.34
    10/1/1998 5,540,570,493,226.32


    10/1/1998 5,540,570,493,226.32
    10/1/1999 5,652,679,330,611.02


    10/1/1999 5,652,679,330,611.02
    11/1/2000 5,680,961,418,882.13


    11/1/2000 5,680,961,418,882.13
    1/19/2001 5,727,776,738,304.64

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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Right, here are the Clinton deficits by year according to the checkbook of the United States
    No, those are the national DEBT, not the deficit. Debt is the total we owe. Deficit is the shortfall in any given year. That's why it says "debt" in the title of your link.

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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    No, those are the national DEBT, not the deficit. Debt is the total we owe. Deficit is the shortfall in any given year. That's why it says "debt" in the title of your link.

    What is the difference between the beginning of the new fiscal year and the end of the last fiscal year? I really am worried about the education you received.

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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    No, those are the national DEBT, not the deficit. Debt is the total we owe. Deficit is the shortfall in any given year. That's why it says "debt" in the title of your link.
    Exactly. He is a liar.

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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What is the difference between the beginning of the new fiscal year and the end of the last fiscal year? I really am worried about the education you received.
    The education *I* received? You just said "here is the deficit" and posted the debt...

    The difference between the debt at the start of the year and the end of the year is not really anything technically. It isn't the deficit because for example, bills can be sent in to the government late or early, people can claim expenses incurred in the next fiscal year, etc.

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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Exactly. He is a liar.
    Another personal attack because you don't like being challenged. You have so much emotional time invested in liberalism that simple facts confuse you. The question is why? We pay debt service on the debt each year and if there was a surplus especially as big as the CBO reported why did debt go up each year? Think about it, I am sure it will come to you.

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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    The education *I* received? You just said "here is the deficit" and posted the debt...

    The difference between the debt at the start of the year and the end of the year is not really anything technically. It isn't the deficit because for example, bills can be sent in to the government late or early, people can claim expenses incurred in the next fiscal year, etc.
    Do you realize that deficits are added to the debt each day? That is the link I gave you and shows how the debt goes up and down due to deficits and surpluses by day. At the end of the fiscal year the debt on that day minus the debt on the first day of the fiscal year is the deficit. Now why is this even an issue with you? Debt has gone up each year regardless of the President and I know that bothers you because liberals and the media has lied to you but that is reality. Sorry

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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Another personal attack because you don't like being challenged. You have so much emotional time invested in liberalism that simple facts confuse you. The question is why? We pay debt service on the debt each year and if there was a surplus especially as big as the CBO reported why did debt go up each year? Think about it, I am sure it will come to you.
    The notion you have that liberals have trouble with facts is very odd. People with post graduate degrees are twice as likely to consider themselves liberal than conservative. Generally speaking, the liberal platform tends to be far, far, more complex and nuanced, where the conservative platform tends to be easily summarized in a bumper sticker on most issues. I would say that either side is dramatically smarter than the other, and certainly both sides have both smart and dumb members, but if we were to stereotype one, it would certainly be the conservatives that were on the wrong side of that in terms of education or intelligence.

    As for your question, let me guess- it are a conspiracy!!!!

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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Because the alternative is a lot worse and as long as Obama is the headliner that will be the case.
    But you're both taking us to hell, your side at best is just slightly slower so we can enjoy the trip down. But it's the complete opposite of what I want. I don't want to slowly descend into hell any more than I would like to get there quickly. I would in fact like to avoid it all together. So why should I support a party going in the opposite direction? You keep wanting to trivialize third parties and saying that it's letting Obama win. But the only difference between Obama and the Republicans seems to be, at best, how quickly we will ruin the Republic. So functionally, the two sides are equivalent. Both will lead to ruination. The status quo does not change through support of the status quo. It only changes when its power is threatened. Which would occur if enough people left the main party to vote third party, thus preventing their win.
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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    The notion you have that liberals have trouble with facts is very odd. People with post graduate degrees are twice as likely to consider themselves liberal than conservative. Generally speaking, the liberal platform tends to be far, far, more complex and nuanced, where the conservative platform tends to be easily summarized in a bumper sticker on most issues. I would say that either side is dramatically smarter than the other, and certainly both sides have both smart and dumb members, but if we were to stereotype one, it would certainly be the conservatives that were on the wrong side of that in terms of education or intelligence.

    As for your question, let me guess- it are a conspiracy!!!!
    I call that being book smart and street stupid. We have 25 million plus unemployed and under employed Americans and how do liberals plan on putting them back to work? The numbers are what they are whether you like them or not. debt service is paid on the debt which the accumulation of deficits added to the previous debt.

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