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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    The class warfare belongs squarely in the GOP toolbox as they rant and rave about entitlements, promulgating a class hatred towards those who they paint as not paying their own way / 'fair share'.

    As far as socialism goes, the USA has been leaning decidedly in the social progressive camp for some 70 years; otherwise we would not have programs like Social Security, Medicare, Unemployment Insurance, and a progressive income tax. I ROF and LMAO everytime I see some hysterical right wing pol claim this is a "center right" country
    You think it is class warfare to not care what someone else makes or is it class warfare to redistribute what someone else makes? Entitlements create dependence and who benefits from dependency? Let me help you, govt!

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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    no sir, you do not apply the same standards, as has been shown repeatedly, and as you prove here, as long as there is an (R) next to the name, you will vote for them, even, if by your own standards, the results, as you see them, are the same as someone with a (D) next to their name. again, why the double standard? and again, please dispense with the attempted baiting/trolling, just answer the question.
    As usual you ignore the results and data posted to make a personal attack. Keep trolling.

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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    As usual you ignore the results and data posted to make a personal attack. Keep trolling.
    no sir, i have not made a personal attack against you, nor have i attempted to troll you, i have, several times, asked you a question, which you seem to have some difficulty in answering, that question being why you don't apply the same standard to republicans as you do democrats, and what inspires such blind loyalty to the GOP on your part...no trolling, no personal attack, a simple question which seems to have tied you all up in knots.

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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You don't seem to get it I am not bitching about the poor not paying taxes I am bitching about the govt. spending too much money. Look, I think you are a good person but you sure have been brainwashed into believing the liberal rhetoric that we need more money which is code word for "Hey, I support the current size of the govt!"

    Your revisionist history about the Clinton years is a problem today because all it does is divert from the Obama record and agenda. Why do you believe sending more money to the govt. with 25 plus million unemployed and under employed Americans makes any sense at all? This is class warfare and a step towards socialism and the question is do you really believe it thus are part of the problem or are you just brainwashed into believing the liberal rhetoric?
    if that's true...why do you post rants about the poor not paying taxes? i believe we should raise taxes on the wealthy and cut spending. by default, when we cut spending we affect the poor, so why not share the pain?

    and are you really positing that the clinton years were anything but good?
    Last edited by liblady; 09-19-11 at 03:08 PM.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    no sir, i have not made a personal attack against you, nor have i attempted to troll you, i have, several times, asked you a question, which you seem to have some difficulty in answering, that question being why you don't apply the same standard to republicans as you do democrats, and what inspires such blind loyalty to the GOP on your part...no trolling, no personal attack, a simple question which seems to have tied you all up in knots.
    Actually all you have ever done is parrot someone else's off topic post and question never asking one of your own. I grew up a Democrat but grew out of it but never outgrew my conservative beliefs. Some people never do and you appear to be in that class. Keep supporting that union and one of these days you are going to wake up and wonder what happened. Why would anyone vote for 4 more years of Obamanomics that promotes class warfare and individual wealth creation? why would anyone vote for Gore or Kerry and now why would anyone vote for another four years of this, net job loss, fewer in the labor force, 4 trillion added to the debt, rising misery index, and poor economic growth? Obama's only chance is to create so many dependent people that they have to vote just to keep their benefits that the taxpayers are funding.

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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Actually all you have ever done is parrot someone else's off topic post and question never asking one of your own. I grew up a Democrat but grew out of it but never outgrew my conservative beliefs. Some people never do and you appear to be in that class. Keep supporting that union and one of these days you are going to wake up and wonder what happened. Why would anyone vote for 4 more years of Obamanomics that promotes class warfare and individual wealth creation? why would anyone vote for Gore or Kerry and now why would anyone vote for another four years of this, net job loss, fewer in the labor force, 4 trillion added to the debt, rising misery index, and poor economic growth? Obama's only chance is to create so many dependent people that they have to vote just to keep their benefits that the taxpayers are funding.
    see, sometimes you make a fiar argument, but then you fall back on bs rhetoric. fail.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    if that's true...why do you post rants about the poor not paying taxes? i believe we should raise taxes on the wealthy and cut spending. by default, when we cut spending we affect the poor, so why not share the pain?

    and are you really positing that the clinton years were anything but good?
    Because you are the one making this about revenue as are all other Obama supporters. Look, if you think the govt isn't getting enough of your revenue send in more? Why is it that liberals always want to spread their misery equally to everyone else. Why don't I ever see you or anyone else claiming that you send in more than required? Raising taxes on the wealthy does what? It isn't the Federal Government's responsibility to "help" the poor, that is a state and local issue.

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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    see, sometimes you make a fiar argument, but then you fall back on bs rhetoric. fail.
    Define the bs rhetoric as it seems actual data has no place in your world. Think that people who aren't paying any FIT are going to have any trouble forcing those that do to pay more? How are they going to react when someone raises their taxes by implementing a flat tax?

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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Actually all you have ever done is parrot someone else's off topic post and question never asking one of your own. I grew up a Democrat but grew out of it but never outgrew my conservative beliefs. Some people never do and you appear to be in that class. Keep supporting that union and one of these days you are going to wake up and wonder what happened. Why would anyone vote for 4 more years of Obamanomics that promotes class warfare and individual wealth creation? why would anyone vote for Gore or Kerry and now why would anyone vote for another four years of this, net job loss, fewer in the labor force, 4 trillion added to the debt, rising misery index, and poor economic growth? Obama's only chance is to create so many dependent people that they have to vote just to keep their benefits that the taxpayers are funding.
    please, answer the question put before you, and quit diverting...i want to know, what inspires such blind loyalty from you? yes con, i am a member of the UAW, and proud of it, and i find you constantly bringing it up to be amusing, to say the least....now, what inspires your blind loyalty, if one was to apply your 'standards' equally to republicans and democrats, you would be screaming about both, and voting third party....but, you don't...you are a loyal minion of the Republican party, and as long as there is an (R) next to the name, they will get your vote...i am just curious, trying to understand, what the republican party does to keep your blind loyalty, to keep you in lock step, with the rest of the minions....so...please answer the question, and don't divert.

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    Re: Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Because you are the one making this about revenue as are all other Obama supporters. Look, if you think the govt isn't getting enough of your revenue send in more? Why is it that liberals always want to spread their misery equally to everyone else. Why don't I ever see you or anyone else claiming that you send in more than required? Raising taxes on the wealthy does what? It isn't the Federal Government's responsibility to "help" the poor, that is a state and local issue.
    if that's true, why has obama proposed cuts to medicare? it's about revenue as well as spending, only the blindly partisan refuse to see that.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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