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    Re: Obama Extends Cuba Embargo One Year

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Maybe the Castro regime being against ending the embargo is reason enough to end it.
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    According to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, the Cuban regime's refusal to entertain the Obama administration's overtures to improve relations reveals that the Castro dictatorship is "an intransigent, entrenched regime," with no interest in political reform.

    "It is my personal belief," Secretary Clinton said, "that the Castros do not want to see an end to the embargo and do not want to see normalization with the United States, because they would lose all of their excuses for what hasn't happened in Cuba in the last 50 years." Amen to that."

    Clinton stated that it is her personal belief.. That's an opinion, not a fact. We, the USA, have screwed Cuba for the last 50 years. Sometimes, one should just face reality and talk reality. This is one such case. Whether Castro is a good guy or a bad guy must be related to the welfare of Cubans. The best healthcare in the Western hemisphere. Low pollution. No Obamss, no Newt Gingriches, no GWSnortMyShorts, just poor crooked Cuban politicians with no power and no big banks and corporations to get them power. Woe is we, sounds like a success story for the worker's paradise, don't you think?

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    Re: Obama Extends Cuba Embargo One Year

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    The only problem was he missed adding the three zeros to the end of the time frame that the act should have been extended.
    Well - what Dems are good for are only making short-term decisions and then passing the buck onto the next guys. Obama has a winning streak in this way: short term teacher, short term senator, short term president
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    Re: Obama Extends Cuba Embargo One Year

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandokan View Post
    The necessary steps required to be taken by the Castros’ military dictatorship to lift the embargo shall be:

    a) Opposition parties should have the freedom to organize, assemble, and speak, with equal access to all airwaves. All political prisoners must be released and allowed to participate.

    b) Human rights organizations should be free to visit Cuba to ensure that the conditions for free elections are being created.

    Without major steps by the regime to open up its political system and its economic system, trade with the regime will not help the Cuban people.
    If this is your standard then I would expect you to be an equal advocate for a trade embargo with China. Come to think of it, perhaps other countries might have trade embargoes with the US until we comply with these standards ourselves. Strong arguments could be made that the US does not have free elections (must pay to play.... must be bought), has political prisoners (in Cuba, ironically) and limited access to its own airwaves (concentration of ownership of our press among a very few media companies).

    What is the quote? "...people that live in stone houses shouldn't throw glass..." or something like that.

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    Re: Obama Extends Cuba Embargo One Year

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Well - what Dems are good for are only making short-term decisions and then passing the buck onto the next guys. Obama has a winning streak in this way: short term teacher, short term senator, short term president
    Eight years is as long as it gets.....

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    Re: Obama Extends Cuba Embargo One Year

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Eight years is as long as it gets.....
    8 vs 4 . . .
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    Re: Obama Extends Cuba Embargo One Year

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Well - what Dems are good for are only making short-term decisions and then passing the buck onto the next guys. Obama has a winning streak in this way: short term teacher, short term senator, short term president
    That last remains to be seen. The Republicans have to first nominate someone who isn't Perry or Cain. They can still snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory.
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    Re: Obama Extends Cuba Embargo One Year

    If it is possible to enter an independent country and murder their leader, as was done in the case of Libya, then it should make no difference in the case of Cuba. The precedence has been established.

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    Re: Obama Extends Cuba Embargo One Year

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    If it is possible to enter an independent country and murder their leader, as was done in the case of Libya, then it should make no difference in the case of Cuba. The precedence has been established.
    They've tried plenty hard over the decades... exploding cigars and all.

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    Re: Obama Extends Cuba Embargo One Year

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    If it is possible to enter an independent country and murder their leader, as was done in the case of Libya, then it should make no difference in the case of Cuba. The precedence has been established.


    Agreed. It sure would fit the same definition as murder. So murder must be good. Precedence established. Oh yeh! Thieu in Vietnam. Allende in Chile. Hussein in Iraq. Just to name a few. Very profitable over the long run. A genuine corporate gold mine. Ain't nothin' like well organized assassinations, killings, and assorted mayhem with death and chaos and a nice profit for all involved. Let's not look too hard at Latin America, eh?

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    Re: Obama Extends Cuba Embargo One Year

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Agreed. It sure would fit the same definition as murder. So murder must be good. Precedence established. Oh yeh! Thieu in Vietnam. Allende in Chile. Hussein in Iraq. Just to name a few. Very profitable over the long run. A genuine corporate gold mine. Ain't nothin' like well organized assassinations, killings, and assorted mayhem with death and chaos and a nice profit for all involved. Let's not look too hard at Latin America, eh?
    Barrack Obama had no problem in killing Gadaffi. Why not Fidel Castro? Why wait until after the election to make the tough decisions?

    And indeed why not any Hitlers, Stalins. Saddams, or anyone else committing mass murder?

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