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Sure it is, loitering. You can't just lurk wherever you want.but no, standing around isn't against the law.
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Sure it is, loitering. You can't just lurk wherever you want.but no, standing around isn't against the law.
Sure it is, loitering. You can't just lurk wherever you want.
I'm sure you would like to spin a huge win for the Democrats as a loss, but it can't be done. Recalling one state senator is a feat in itself, but two! With an effort like that, the Democrats have a good chance of recalling the corrupt Scott Walker next year.
The Democrats took 2 state senators from the Republicans despite the huge influx of cash from the Koch brothers and Karl Rove's American Crossroads.
I don't thinkn those are comparable, but no, standing around isn't against the law. No matter what we think about the KKK, it would not have gone to court.
You don't think white people standing outside a polling place with nooses in their hands would have gone to court under voter intimidation?
This is pure Allinsky. It should be dismissed with an apology instead angry libs will go after, and try and destroy anyone that bucks their ideology.
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If only their stated goal wasn't to, you know, take the senate back - and with all of WI supposedly hating Walker and Act 10 that should have been easy - then you might have a point.
As it is, all you have is justifications. Unions spent gobs of money on Kloppenburg and she kind of sort of came close to beating Prosser, which is supposed to prove that WI hates Act10 and sees Walker as a dictator. Then unions spent even bigger sums of money and promised that the WI senate would flip, but they only took two seats -one by only 1500 votes despite an affair, not living in district and allegations of cronyism -. Obviously WI is on your side - or so the justificaitons of the ridiculous go...
I see. If Anthony Wiener abuses his public office, destroy him. If Governor Walker abuses his public office, protect him and call it a witch hunt. After all, he is a Republican.
:spin:If only their stated goal wasn't to, you know, take the senate back - and with all of WI supposedly hating Walker and Act 10 that should have been easy - then you might have a point.
As it is, all you have is justifications. Unions spent gobs of money on Kloppenburg and she kind of sort of came close to beating Prosser, which is supposed to prove that WI hates Act10 and sees Walker as a dictator. Then unions spent even bigger sums of money and promised that the WI senate would flip, but they only took two seats -one by only 1500 votes despite an affair, not living in district and allegations of cronyism -. Obviously WI is on your side - or so the justificaitons of the ridiculous go...
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Sure they had a goal to take back the senate, they set their goals high, but I don't see where they promised to take it back. This a democracy, you can't promise elections. And a win is a win no matter how close it is. Being close counts in horseshoes.:roll:
Recalling two state senators in the same election is unprecedented.
Yes, unions spent gobs of money on Kloppenburg. The Koch Brothers spent even more on Prosser. why is one acceptable and the other not? The way I see it, if the Koch Brothers have the right to spend money, then so do the unions. If the unions don't have that right, then neither do the Koch Brothers. You can't have it both ways.
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Sure they had a goal to take back the senate, they set their goals high, but I don't see where they promised to take it back. This a democracy, you can't promise elections. And a win is a win no matter how close it is. Being close counts in horseshoes.:roll:
Recalling two state senators in the same election is unprecedented.
What I understand is that when Walker took office, he had two, count them 2, more Republican senators than he has today despite the fact that the Koch Bros - Americans For Prosperity - and Karl Rove's - American Crossroads - spent millions on the campaign to win.Then you can certainly understand that unions lost the Kloppenburg race, which had become a referendum on Act 10 and Walker and lost in their attempt to flip the senate. Taking two senate seats was not their goal. To you, this was a great way to spend public money in WI and private money of both political parties. Let's hope all future democratic efforts are just as sucessful. Think how happy you will be. Republicans will be just as happy - looks like a win-win to me.
What I understand is that when Walker took office, he had two, count them 2, more Republican senators than he has today despite the fact that the Koch Bros - Americans For Prosperity - and Karl Rove's - American Crossroads - spent millions on the campaign to win.
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The Democrats won 4 out of 6 races. :thumbs: And we'll see what happens to Gov. Walker after he's been office for one full year.And despite the unions spending multiple millions of dollars, we are basically right back where we started. Conservatives are still the majority on the WI supreme course, the WI state senate and the WI state house. Act10 is still the law in WI. The state is saving butt loads of money, balanced a budget and didn't have to raise any taxes. Many of the public unions in WI have even decided not to seek recertification. Republicans in WI are going to be in a much better position due to redrawing the districts and the senator (Randy Hopper) that was involved in personal issues and still only lost by 1500 votes will easily be regained next year. Again, I hope democrats are always so sucessful. It seems to be best for both the state and federal levels when they are.
The Democrats won 4 out of 6 races. :thumbs: And we'll see what happens to Gov. Walker after he's been office for one full year.
BTW, the Republicans wasted state money by putting up fake Democrats so there would be a primary election. Conservatives don't mind spending the people's money as long as it serves their purpose. The end justifes the means with conservatives.
The Democrats won 4 out of 6 races. :thumbs: And we'll see what happens to Gov. Walker after he's been office for one full year.
BTW, the Republicans wasted state money by putting up fake Democrats so there would be a primary election. Conservatives don't mind spending the people's money as long as it serves their purpose. The end justifes the means with conservatives.
There were 9 recall elections, before the election the Republicans held a 19-14 majority, after the recall it was 17-16 so where do you get the 4 out of 6 recall elections won by Democrats.
Because the dems won 2 recall races to keep their seats.
One was because the republican that had the best chance to win, was an idiot and didn't submit enough signatures. The guy that did submit enough signatures, had some kind of police record. The other I actually thought republicans had a chance to win.
I hear you however how is that winning 4 out of 6 races when there were 8 races. They won the two Democrat seats on the 16th and won 2 of the 6 Republican seats on the 9th which means they won 4 out of 8, not four out of 6. What am I missing
You are correct, I don't know where the 4 of 6 came from. The Democrats held their three seats and captured two seats from the Republicans. :thumbs:Actually, using Bauer's measurenments, it looks like Dems won 5 and Reps won 4. So, dems won 5 of 9. Regardless, rep maintained control of all branches of government and WI is all the better for it.
Wisconsin Senate recall elections, 2011 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You don't think white people standing outside a polling place with nooses in their hands would have gone to court under voter intimidation?
Yes, unions spent gobs of money on Kloppenburg. The Koch Brothers spent even more on Prosser. why is one acceptable and the other not? The way I see it, if the Koch Brothers have the right to spend money, then so do the unions. If the unions don't have that right, then neither do the Koch Brothers. You can't have it both ways.
In a white neighborhood...No. Definitely not