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Probe surrounding Wis. governor apparently growing

buck said:
Yes, Danarhea's commentary greatly implied (probably more then just implication, but whatever) Walker's guilt.

I thought OP was "original post" - meaning Dan's original post, no?
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I often fine people often refer to both, one or the other at different times. But my mistake here.
 
j-mac said:
Default means they were all but sentenced. Now maybe you'd like to explain why Holder would drop the charges? Nah, forget it, I don't have time to read your BS.

j-mac
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You do realize you linked a commentary and not a news report? If such a charge was from someone you disagreed with, about someone you wanted to agree with, would you give it the same weight?
 
I have little faith in any raid started by "Federal authorities" of ex-staff (who may be disgruntled) regarding a Republican governor who is trying to balance a state budget and cut back on unions abusing the government (in a battleground state where unions donate heavily to Democrats).
 
digsbe said:
I have little faith in any raid started by "Federal authorities" of ex-staff (who may be disgruntled) regarding a Republican governor who is trying to balance a state budget and cut back on unions abusing the government (in a battleground state where unions donate heavily to Democrats).
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Gee, that wasn't too partisan :roll:

I thought putting Federal authorities in quotes really made your argument more persuasive :lol:
 
Conservative said:
Throughout my business career the only ones I found to be truly union proud are the ones who don't have confidence in themselves and are incapable of competing in the marketplace. Many union members shortchange themselves by becoming too dependent on their unions and thus miss out on promotions and other growth opportunities. I have found many retired union employees that aren't so union proud today because looking back they realize how foolish they were putting so much faith in someone else. Never look back and say you are sorry, randel, for anything that you did. Lack of initiative and drive are something that you will be sorry for in the future.
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Your Wrong.....union members public and private are the only working americans making a halfway decent wage....Police Fireman are Union they dont feel incapable of competing their jobs have no competition....im a retired union man and im VERY PROUD of my Union and my time in it.
This crap rhetoric that comes from the far right...about unions...about social security about medicare about tax cuts create jobs about no regulations stimulate growth...I used to buy all that for decades, no more its a bunch of horsechit and thats all the greedsters have to try and use for excuses to grab everything for themselves..
 
lpast said:
Your Wrong.....union members public and private are the only working americans making a halfway decent wage....Police Fireman are Union they dont feel incapable of competing their jobs have no competition....im a retired union man and im VERY PROUD of my Union and my time in it.
This crap rhetoric that comes from the far right...about unions...about social security about medicare about tax cuts create jobs about no regulations stimulate growth...I used to buy all that for decades, no more its a bunch of horsechit and thats all the greedsters have to try and use for excuses to grab everything for themselves..
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This country wasn't built on those principles supported today by unions and that cradle to grave crap is bankrupting us especially in the private union sector. Sorry but the truth is public sector workers are bankrupting this country and if that is what you want to support send your money directly to them. It really is easy spending someone else's money, isn't it? Problem is your money is being wasted on public union employees and will be paying them for decades to come.
 
DaveFagan said:
Politicians are scumbags, but I saw nothing in the article indicting Walker, except the perihperal association with his aide/aides. It'll be interesting to watch down the road. Should fester around election time.
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Yeah and the Teapot Dome scandal just involved Harding's aides too, but that didn't exactly keep his reputation in tact, did it? A man who surrounds himself with corrupt people either knows of their corruption and is also guilty, or is oblivious of what is going on around him and therefore unfit to lead. There are exceptions to these rules, but in a case where somebody's most trusted associates are brought along from the beginning and rising through the ranks, this kind of thing is unacceptable should it be proven they ignored their jobs in favor of acting in political interest.

Don't forget, all these controversial issues surrounding Walker in the past were about him saying we can't afford to spend state money on this and we can't afford that. Meanwhile, he's paying six figure salaries to all his friends who sit around campaigning for him year round? That's shameless and disgusting.
 
Conservative said:
This country wasn't built on those principles supported today by unions and that cradle to grave crap is bankrupting us especially in the private union sector. Sorry but the truth is public sector workers are bankrupting this country and if that is what you want to support send your money directly to them. It really is easy spending someone else's money, isn't it? Problem is your money is being wasted on public union employees and will be paying them for decades to come.
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and exactly what principles to you refer to?
 
randel said:
and exactly what principles to you refer to?
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Cradle to grave coverage, wage increases regardless of performance, no concern for the taxpayers, unsustainable pension and healthcare benefits, jobs for life regardless of performance. Again, I am talking PUBLIC UNIONS. If management is dumb enough to allow union shops of the private sector then that is for their shareholders to handle.
 
Conservative said:
This country wasn't built on those principles supported today by unions
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read the first sentence of the US Constitution. One of the goals of this nation was to build a more perfect UNION in our national interests. But when workers try to build a more perfect UNION for their economic interests- you act like its Karl Marx going at it with Leon Trotsky as both warm themselves in the glow of a fireplace filled with burning American flags.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
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The very idea of a UNION - of joining and working together in common interest is as American as apple pie, motherhood and George Washington all rolled into one.
 
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Conservative said:
Cradle to grave coverage, wage increases regardless of performance, no concern for the taxpayers, unsustainable pension and healthcare benefits, jobs for life regardless of performance. Again, I am talking PUBLIC UNIONS. If management is dumb enough to allow union shops of the private sector then that is for their shareholders to handle.
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Bull. today its the public sector unions because you smell blood in the water. Tomorrow you move on to the others because you simply hate unions and have made that very very clear.
 
Conservative said:
Cradle to grave coverage, wage increases regardless of performance, no concern for the taxpayers, unsustainable pension and healthcare benefits, jobs for life regardless of performance. Again, I am talking PUBLIC UNIONS.
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No, you're talking about people born into rich families. Unions are about ensuring that workers will be compensated fairly for hard work.
 
haymarket said:
read the first sentence of the US Constitution. One of the goals of this nation was to build a more perfect UNION in our national interests. But when workers try to build a more perfect UNION for their economic interests- you act like its Karl Marx going at it with Leon Trotsky as both warm themselves in the glow of a fireplace filled with burning American flags.



The very idea of a UNION - of joining and working together in common interest is as American as apple pie, motherhood and George Washington all rolled into one.
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Tell that to the people of Detroit that you have built a better union and that unions have helped. Unions and liberalims have destroyed Detroit and most other big cities. Congratulations on the success you have generated for this nation and especially the high unemployment and even higher African Unemployment in Michigan.
 
danarhea said:
Ahh, yes, Walker was going to bring honesty back to Wisconsin politics. You know, I knew something like this might happen. Why? Because Walker is just another politician, and Republican or Democrat, they are ALL scum bags. When are Republicans and Democrats going to wake up and realize that they've been had?

Article is here.
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Without reading the thread, I'm willing to bet that the same people who have been bashing Obama over the Solyndra raid, convicting him without trial, will sing an ENTIRELY different tune over THIS raid.

"Don't rush to judgement!"

"Its a liberal hatchet job!"

"They're only focusing on this to cover Obamas crimes involving Solyndra"

Now lets watch!
 
Mustachio said:
No, you're talking about people born into rich families. Unions are about ensuring that workers will be compensated fairly for hard work.
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Right the vast majority of rich people inherited it. Unions are destroying this country but thank God they are just 12% of the labor force
 
haymarket said:
read the first sentence of the US Constitution. One of the goals of this nation was to build a more perfect UNION in our national interests. But when workers try to build a more perfect UNION for their economic interests- you act like its Karl Marx going at it with Leon Trotsky as both warm themselves in the glow of a fireplace filled with burning American flags.



The very idea of a UNION - of joining and working together in common interest is as American as apple pie, motherhood and George Washington all rolled into one.
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amen brother!!
 
Conservative said:
Right the vast majority of rich people inherited it. Unions are destroying this country but thank God they are just 12% of the labor force
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they are only 12%, but are destroying the country?:lamo do you know how foolish that makes you sound?:lamo
 
What if...? said:
Without reading the thread, I'm willing to bet that the same people who have been bashing Obama over the Solyndra raid, convicting him without trial, will sing an ENTIRELY different tune over THIS raid.

"Don't rush to judgement!"

"Its a liberal hatchet job!"

"They're only focusing on this to cover Obamas crimes involving Solyndra"

Now lets watch!
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Solyndra has cost the taxpayer over 500 million dollars and a few other Green companies that went bankrupt have put the cost over a trillion dollars but what the hell it is only money, probably none of yours but certainly is that of taxpayers. Easy to ignore Obama performance, isn't it? What is it that creates such liberal loyalty?
 
Conservative said:
Rather interesting how liberals are quick to point to perceived indescretions on the part of a Republican but ignore the proven allegations against Democrats. Solyndra is a disaster for Obama and the taxpayers and there are four other companies that Obama gave stimulus money to that have failed. then there is this

General Reported He Was Pressured On Testimony About White House-Backed Project, Sources Say | Fox News

The more we hear about this Administration the less we hear from the Obama supporters but they have no problem going after alleged allegations against a Republican?
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Damn I'm good! 13th post! Booyah!
 
randel said:
they are only 12%, but are destroying the country?:lamo do you know how foolish that makes you sound?:lamo
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Yeah, you're right, that sounds almost as foolish as when Union hack bosses refer to working people, when everyone knows that they are only talking about Union workers...

BTW, better hurry to the park on break, I hear that the shop steward has some good smoke.

j-mac
 
Conservative said:
Tell that to the people of Detroit that you have built a better union and that unions have helped.
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The people of Detroit already know the first sentence of the US Constitution.
 
j-mac said:
Yeah, you're right, that sounds almost as foolish as when Union hack bosses refer to working people, when everyone knows that they are only talking about Union workers...

BTW, better hurry to the park on break, I hear that the shop steward has some good smoke.

j-mac
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your hatred of those who seek to better their economic situation by banding together has been logged and noted several times, we get it you hate unions, you hate anyone associated with unions.
 
haymarket said:
The people of Detroit already know the first sentence of the US Constitution.
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We the People in Detroit needs to be change to We the Unemployed because that is what liberalism and unions have created, a dependent class.
 
randel said:
your hatred of those who seek to better their economic situation by banding together has been logged and noted several times, we get it you hate unions, you hate anyone associated with unions.
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Yes, it has been duly noted. And I have reported it to Comrade Leggbraker of the Trotsky Communist Cell Cooperative and have been assured that when the day of National Workers Liberation comes, the party being discussed will be in line for some serious re-education and re-training.
 
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