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    Re: Probe surrounding Wis. governor apparently growing

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You keep wrongly using this hyperbole that Walker has been convicted. Then you complain how unfair that is. This is utterly ridiculous.
    Convicted in the minds of liberals or this wouldn't even be a thread topic, now would it?

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    Re: Probe surrounding Wis. governor apparently growing

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Interesting that Walker has been convicted before it has been proven whereas with Obama who is innocent until convicted. Inspite of Chicago politics on display Obama is given the benefit out doubt but not Walker. Explain why?
    The article didn't say Walker was guilty of anything. So, you can come off that rant. There have been several people who have have been critical of the President (or atleast his Administration) for being too quick to give federal funds to Solyndra when it was pretty obvious by some accounts that they were headed for financial difficulties rather quickly. To that, I can understand people being outraged about giving that company $500M in taxpayer money only to see them go belly-up. But you still have to prove corruption took place rather than the Administration receiving word too late to pull federal funding.

    As with the Walker situation, you have to let the investigation play itself out there, too.

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    Re: Probe surrounding Wis. governor apparently growing

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You keep wrongly using this hyperbole that Walker has been convicted. Then you complain how unfair that is. This is utterly ridiculous.
    those are the posts of a politician who only earlier posted telling us how different - how honest and tactful - he is when compared to most politicians:
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    I want you to know that not all politicians are not scumbags. There are some of us who served the public with our

    integrity tact.

    It is easy to paint all politicians with the same broad brush, however there are some who take the position reluctantly but for the right reasons.

    A few of us are able to ignore the shame that some bring upon themselves when they have lost their way.

    I know a few politicians who have lived up to their "Oath of Office," I count myself among them.
    ignore what an extremist republican says; instead monitor their actions. then, you will see the difference between the two
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    Re: Probe surrounding Wis. governor apparently growing

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    1 - so what?
    2- instead of guessing, present your facts
    What do you mean so what? I think it is relevant to understand whom is doing this. Since you don't want to know that says alot.

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    Re: Probe surrounding Wis. governor apparently growing

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    those are the posts of a politician who only earlier posted telling us how different - how honest and tactful - he is when compared to most politicians:


    ignore what an extremist republican says; instead monitor their actions. then, you will see the difference between the two
    Why is this even a topic if liberals haven't already convicted Walker?

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    Re: Probe surrounding Wis. governor apparently growing

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Convicted in the minds of liberals or this wouldn't even be a thread topic, now would it?
    I'm a liberal and I think I've shown I'm very willing to give Walker the benefit of the doubt here. However, I think it fair to point out the obvious:

    Two of Walker's former employees once worked with him at lower levels of government within his state.

    Both employees suddenly resigned from high paying jobs.

    At least one employee worked in a position where she had significant oversight of state contracts.

    Both employees are accused of wrong-doing in state campaign matters concerning Gov. Walker.

    On the surface, it smells of corruption. But sending emails in and of itself isn't a crime. However, just as with the Obama Administration, it is what's contained in those emails that may help to tell the story.
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    Re: Probe surrounding Wis. governor apparently growing

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Why is this even a topic if liberals haven't already convicted Walker?
    Okay ... .... like the Denzel Washington request in PHILADELPHIA to explain it to him like he is a four year old

    1 - This is a news story
    2 - this thread is about breaking news stories
    3 - this is NOT a story about anybody being convicted of anything
    4 - this is a story about an ongoing investigation
    5 - you are the only one battling your own self created frankenstein monster of a convicted Walker
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    Re: Probe surrounding Wis. governor apparently growing

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Why is this even a topic if liberals haven't already convicted Walker?
    Because people like to talk about investigations of politicians. I mean did you really need to ask?

    Scandals, sex, and wars are the biggest sensational items for all media. Does it really suprise you?

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    Re: Probe surrounding Wis. governor apparently growing

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    On the surface of it, it doesn't seem as if Walker did anything wrong. But being that I am a public employee I do know that there are policies (at least in my state) that prohibits public employees from "campaigning" on government time. You have to wonder just what exactly were these employees doing that they'd walk away from such high paying jobs so abruptly especially in a down economy. Let's look at two important facets of these two employee's association with Gov. Walker.

    Both worked with him Gov. Walker when he worked in local government at the county level per the OP article. One worked in state's contracting office. I do find it interesting that the article would mention that w/o being more specific. Maybe it was just one of those "gotcha" mental connection things...you know, mention that one of Walker's former employees suddenly resigned who just so happened to have worked in the department that monitored state contracts...providing that "corruption" angle. It could just be conincidence, but what if it were true? What if corruption with state contracts along with illegal campaigning were the problem?

    Gotta let this investigation play out. Could be nothing, could be a major story of corrupt politics...

    Let's wait and see how things shake out. The fact that these two former employees who use to work for Walker at lower levels of public service just happened to up and quit in and of itself is a red flag.
    This was probably just poor reporting, but Archer, the most recently targeted, didn't resign. She is on medical leave. once her heath issues are over (whatever they are) she is going back to work in a different position.

    Former Walker aide shaken, embarrassed following FBI raid, denies any wrongdoing

    She followed him to Madison to serve as the Department of Administration's deputy secretary. She left that post last month and went on medical leave for a "private health reason." When she returns, Archer said, she will work for the Department of Children and Families.
    the other guy that stepped down, had said that he intended to leave the job in September all along, and almost didn't take the job in the first place for that reason. I obviously have no idea if he was speaking the truth. but it's more then anyone else has.

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    Re: Probe surrounding Wis. governor apparently growing

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    What do you mean so what? I think it is relevant to understand whom is doing this. Since you don't want to know that says alot.

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    here is your statement which led to my SO WHAT?

    Who brought this investigation, and whom are they aligned with politically? My guess is that whom ever it is will be found to have ties to public sector unions.
    Again - so what? Are you really trying to tell us that people of a certain political persuasion are barred and disqualified from any participation in the actual process simply because you worship before another ideological altar? Are you really trying to tell us that anyone who has these nameless, vague and unidentified "ties to public sector unions" has relinquished all their rights as citizens in that state? Because unless you are taking both of those positions, it is irrelevant and means nothing as to the actual events of this story.

    SO WHAT is indeed the perfect response to your statement.
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