2) You have accused the entire Obama admin of corruption in this thread. I already quoted the post. Herer it is again.
You see, folks who just rely on one side of the equation rarely take the time to see the other side. I pride myself on trying to remain "objective". So, I take the time to study both sides of the equation. There's right and wrong on both sides but as things apply today, I'd say public unions are right and state governments are wrong.
Using the deeds of past politicians as an excuse for the inaction of present-day politicians who ignored the warning signs of their state's crumbling economy is their fault, not the fault of the dutiful state employees who did nothing to deserve what some states are doing to them. The warning signs were there. The States simply failed to act in a timely and decisive manner. Some would say they did (as in the case of my state) by freezing raises on public employees, but that same freeze should have been applied to the politicians who we elect to responsibly manage those tax dollars you so earnestly conveat. I appreciate those tax dollars as well because contrary to popular belief I PAY LOCAL, STATE AND FEDERAL TAXES, TOO! My salary is NOT a free-ride.Who pays public sector union employees and who represents the will of the employer? Public unions negotiate with a politician who will be out of office sometime in the future but the taxpayers are obligated for the deals made. It is always easier negotiating with someone else's money.
If the employees of a private sector business wants to unionize then it is up to the company to decide whether they will accept that or move out of state or out of the country. Name for me any union that pays minimum wage and then do the same thing for large corporations that aren't unionized. Minimum wage goes to mostly people between the ages of 16-24 not Fortune 500 companies. Tell me what any union has invested in either the private or public sector. Private sector companies cannot print money like the Federal govt. can so when they cannot meet their expenses they shut down. The public sector just raises taxes or the Federal Govt. prints or borrows more money. What many don't seem to understand is that businesses today pay Federal, State, and in some cases local taxes so when you raise the Federal Taxes you impact state revenue as well. Most companies will move out of high tax states to lower tax states when federal taxes go up. TX has no problem taking on new businesses and new taxpayers.
I'd buy that argument except there's just one thing you failed to consider...No question about it some corporations are irresponsible but so are some public sector employers and employees. Irresponsibility is rewarded by companies going out of business in the private sector but in the public sector it is rewarded by higher taxes on the people that pay the bills. Sound reasonable to you?
States, because they are soverign, cannot declare bankruptcy. So, your argument here is moot.
Last edited by Objective Voice; 09-16-11 at 03:58 PM.