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Thunder said:
I am not a Socialist nor do I believe in Socialism.
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Then stop supporting policy that promotes the socialist agenda. Redistribution and attempts to control production are socialism
 
Conservative said:
Then stop supporting policy that promotes the socialist agenda. Redistribution and attempts to control production are socialism
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you mean like farm subsidies? is that part of the "socialist" agenda?

how about payments sent to corn farmers to get them to NOT grow corn?

is that also part of the "socialist" agenda?

please spare us the ignorant hyperbole.
 
Thunder said:
you mean like farm subsidies? is that part of the "socialist" agenda?

how about payments sent to corn farmers to get them to NOT grow corn?

is that also part of the "socialist" agenda?

please spare us the ignorant hyperbole.
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Ok, farm subsidies to Farmers are due to what? Now who would want to control corn production? Think about it. How much is paid out in "farm subsidies?"
 
Conservative said:
Ok, farm subsidies to Farmers are due to what? Now who would want to control corn production? Think about it. How much is paid out in "farm subsidies?"
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do not quote me, but I believe that during the fight over the government shutdown, ABC news put the number at around $40 billion.
 
Thunder said:
do not quote me, but I believe that during the fight over the government shutdown, ABC news put the number at around $40 billion.
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Why would the govt. pay farmers not to grow corn? Why would you put a tag line like the following and not claim you are a socialist?

God bless the Tea Party. They are a gift to the Democrats and will insure Obama's re-election
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Conservative said:
Why would the govt. pay farmers not to grow corn? Why would you put a tag line like the following and not claim you are a socialist?
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being against the Tea Party and supporting the Democrats and Obama, makes one a Socialist?

you have a very warped & dishonest definition of Socialism.
 
Thunder said:
being against the Tea Party and supporting the Democrats and Obama, makes one a Socialist?
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Certainly not ... naive, possibly moronic... but not a Socialist.
 
Ockham said:
Certainly not ... naive, possibly moronic... but not a Socialist.
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Hey, you believe that supporting the Democrats & Obama is naive and moronic, while I believe supporting the Tea-Party is unAmerican. I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.
 
Thunder said:
Hey, you believe that supporting the Democrats & Obama is naive and moronic, while I believe supporting the Tea-Party is unAmerican. I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.
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Fiscal responsibility is un-American?
 
Thunder said:
being against the Tea Party and supporting the Democrats and Obama, makes one a Socialist?

you have a very warped & dishonest definition of Socialism.
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Why is it that you have a hard time admitting who you are? Dishonesty is ignoring results and still spouting dishonest rhetoric. You do that a lot.
 
Conservative said:
Why is it that you have a hard time admitting who you are? Dishonesty is ignoring results and still spouting dishonest rhetoric. You do that a lot.
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You indicated that Bush was a Socialist and you voted for him 4 times. How come you refuse to admit you're a Socialist?
 
randel said:
fiscal responsibility? republicans? since when?
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Since Republican presidents added some $8.1 trillion to the $10.6 trillion debt and then a Democrat was elected president.
 
Conservative said:
Since they didn't support 4 trillion added to the debt
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how many billions of dollars was added to the debt during Reagan and Bush 2?

looks like about $6 trillion dollars. $2 trillion during Reagan and $4 trillion during King George II.

so much for fiscal conservatism from American Conservatives.
 
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Thunder said:
please provide the link to where he said Bush was a Socialist.
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He said a tax system which allows 47% of workers to avoid paying federal income taxes is a step towards Socialism...

Conservative said:
That is your opinion and you are entitled to it but income distribution through higher taxes and class warfare on the rich is the first step towards socialism. Demonization of profits and attacks on individual wealth creation promote equal outcome instead of equal opportunity both of which are steps towars socialism. 47% of the income earners in this country paying zero in Federal income taxes is buying votes and a step towards socialism. I assure you that when Obama starts taking over business it will be too late. Care to admit that is what you support?
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... only it was Bush's tax cuts which gave us that step "towards Socialism" 47%. I've asked him many times why he votes repeatedly for Socialists if he's not one himself but it appears he's too embarrassed to answer.
 
Thunder said:
how many billions of dollars was added to the debt during Reagan and Bush 2?
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I told you, Bush added 4.9 trillion in 8 years and Reagan added 1.7 trillion in 8 years both with the help of congress that appropriates the money.

You do realize that Obama has 4 trillion in 3 years????
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
... only it was Bush's tax cuts which gave us that step "towards Socialism" 47%. I've asked him many times why he votes repeatedly for Socialists if he's not one himself but it appears he's too embarrassed to answer.
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Well they never run on the socialist platform when they campaign, but the politicians policies after they are voted in seem to sometimes take that turn. Perhaps the answer is "because they don't tell the truth when they campaign".
 
Conservative said:
Since they didn't support 4 trillion added to the debt
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Right, like they wouldn't have done the same f*cking thing if McCain had won in '08 instead of Obama! :lol:
 
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Conservative said:
Since they didn't support 4 trillion added to the debt
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That is easily proven as bull****.

a) Teabaggers came out of the teabag closet about a week or so after Obama was sworn in and long before the debt increased much on his watch; and

b) They never once complained about the debt skyrocketing as it tripled while Reagan was president and nary a peep from them as Bush nearly doubled it, jacking it up over 4½ trillion dollars.

Clearly, increasing the debt is not the issue. What else is different about Obama that might have set them off on their teabagging ways?
 
Conservative said:
He also has 4 trillion added to the debt in 3 years after his name as well plus 25 plus million unemployed and under employed Americans.
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Well thanxs for that wonderful new and enlightening information:roll::roll::roll::roll::roll:
 
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