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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

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    If Obama is doing so well as you seem to believe why is his JAR as low as it is, why did Republicans take control of the House, why are there more unemployed today than when he took office, why is the GDP so low, why is the misery index rising, why hasn't he kept one economic campaign promise? So many questions and yet so few answers.
    Stop spinning. Your argument seems to be that the loss of a democratic NY House seat was a referendum on Obama, but the loss of a republican House seat wasn't. Would you care to explain the obvious inconsistency in your positions?

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

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    Stop spinning. Your argument seems to be that the loss of a democratic NY House seat was a referendum on Obama, but the loss of a republican House seat wasn't. Would you care to explain the obvious inconsistency in your positions?
    In both Districts that the Republicans lost there was a T.E.A. Party challenge and the Democrat candidate lost the popular vote as Republicans and T.E.A. Party gave the Democrat the victory. You don't seem to understand that reality.

    By the way, I don't see an answer to my questions about the Obama approval ratings and actual results?
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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

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    Stop spinning. Your argument seems to be that the loss of a democratic NY House seat was a referendum on Obama, but the loss of a republican House seat wasn't. Would you care to explain the obvious inconsistency in your positions?
    there is no logical, rational, or honest way to defend such a position.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

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    If Obama is doing so well as you seem to believe why is his JAR as low as it is, why did Republicans take control of the House, why are there more unemployed today than when he took office, why is the GDP so low, why is the misery index rising, why hasn't he kept one economic campaign promise? So many questions and yet so few answers.
    Ill give answering your questions a shot conservative.....

    Republicans took the house because americans did not like the way the democrats rammed through Obamacare. Nancy Pelosi has done more singlehandedly to hurt Obama and the democrat party then anything else. Her obvious gloating glaring overbearing attitude when addressing the american people about obamacare and what SHE was going to do...just turned the country immediately against her the democrats and Obama. Thats why the GOP won the house as resoundingly as they did....now that is only my opinion based on closely watching the entire thing unfold.

    The misery index is what it is...because the rich and corporations are keeping it high to enable them to control the rhetoric and win the election in 2012...I believe corporations that need to hire are not and will not till after the election.....after the election no matter who wins...the hiring will begin.

    He hasnt kept one campaign promise for a couple of reasons...number 1 admittedly he totally misqued with his stimulus buyout plan...but lets not forget bush set that stage right before he left office. The second mistake obama made...was his made rush to universal health care that fundamentally put his entire presidency on hold...he didnt sell it right...and he allowed nancy pelosi to be the spokesperson HUGE MISTAKE. After that the gop took the house and that was the end of getting anything passed that he promised...
    I would like to note I didnt vote for Obama and I dont like his agenda...I just like the teaparty and their agenda alot less...

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

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    there is no logical, rational, or honest way to defend such a position.
    Do you believe what you are being told or are you part of the problem supporting the liberal socialist ideology? Do you believe is class warfare and how about a Palestinian State "without" Jews? NY 9 voted against the Obama agenda and got it, when will you? Logic and common sense aren't strengths for you. NY 23 and NY 26 both show that the only way a Democrat wins today is with a valid third party on the ballot and that is what Obama is hoping for in 2012. In both elections the Republican and T.E.A. Party fought against themselves instead of a united front against the Democrat who supported the Obama agenda.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Ill give answering your questions a shot conservative.....

    Republicans took the house because americans did not like the way the democrats rammed through Obamacare. Nancy Pelosi has done more singlehandedly to hurt Obama and the democrat party then anything else. Her obvious gloating glaring overbearing attitude when addressing the american people about obamacare and what SHE was going to do...just turned the country immediately against her the democrats and Obama. Thats why the GOP won the house as resoundingly as they did....now that is only my opinion based on closely watching the entire thing unfold.

    The misery index is what it is...because the rich and corporations are keeping it high to enable them to control the rhetoric and win the election in 2012...I believe corporations that need to hire are not and will not till after the election.....after the election no matter who wins...the hiring will begin.

    He hasnt kept one campaign promise for a couple of reasons...number 1 admittedly he totally misqued with his stimulus buyout plan...but lets not forget bush set that stage right before he left office. The second mistake obama made...was his made rush to universal health care that fundamentally put his entire presidency on hold...he didnt sell it right...and he allowed nancy pelosi to be the spokesperson HUGE MISTAKE. After that the gop took the house and that was the end of getting anything passed that he promised...
    I would like to note I didnt vote for Obama and I dont like his agenda...I just like the teaparty and their agenda alot less...
    You make some good points but you ignore that the Obama resume showed exactly what he was going to do, delegate responsibility to someone else and no leader can do that. You can delegate authority but not responsibility.

    You are right about Obamacare however Pelosi said "we have to pass the bill so we can see what is in it" so that doesn't indicate to me that Obama didn't have involvement but again he stayed away from accepting responsibility for it.

    You are right about the failed stimulus and even when the stimulus was shown to be a failure Obama had moved on to Obamacare. Big mistake as you pointed out. The rich and corporations aren't going to spend their money without confidence in this Administration and the best news they can hear is, "Barack Obama, you're fired!"

    I didn't vote for Obama and won't in 2012. He is a far leftwing ideologue whose entire agenda is based upon class warfare and redistribution of wealth. I have absolutely no problem with the T.E.A. party but know they better unite or obama will win a second term. That happened in NY 23 and NY 26 giving those Districts to Demcrats. A valid third party will give Obama another 4 years.

    Obama's class warfare rhetoric is scary but more scary is how many people are buying the rhetoric. This country wasn't built on those principles and always has promoted individual wealth creation. There are over 25 million unemployed and under employed Americans and you don't raise taxes until you get them back to work.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

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    Do you believe what you are being told or are you part of the problem supporting the liberal socialist ideology?..

    ..NY 9 voted against the Obama agenda and got it, when will you?...
    your questions are both loaded and dishonest. how do you expect anyone to answer such dishonest and hyperbolic questions?

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    ..Obama's class warfare rhetoric is scary but more scary is how many people are buying the rhetoric....
    you accuse the Democrats of spreading "liberal socialist" ideology, and yet you complain about Obama's rhetoric?

    wow.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    your questions are both loaded and dishonest. how do you expect anyone to answer such dishonest and hyperbolic questions?
    You seem to answer my question, you truly believe in the leftwing socialist agenda!

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

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    you accuse the Democrats of spreading "liberal socialist" ideology, and yet you complain about Obama's rhetoric?

    wow.
    Obama rhetoric supports my claims.

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