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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The time has come for term limits, IMO. States have it, so why not the Federal Govt?
    Im not so much in favor of term limits as I am restoring the constitutional powers to the states. If we diodnt have such a massive fed there would be less investment in being a career federal politician. The taxes would be raised by each state appropriately and spent more efficiently.

    Id also like to see the House terms changed to 4 years. They are constantly in campaign mode.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Ronald Reagan had a sign on his desk saying "The Buck Stops Here." Meaning the decisions were his, and he took responsibility. Apparently the sign on Bush's desk read "The Buck Stops Down the Street with Harry."

    Bush could have vetoed anything that Congress passed. It doesn't become law without the President's signature unless Congress overrides the veto. How many of these economy ruining bills did Bush veto?
    Sorry that was Harry Truman with the sign, not by
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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Im not so much in favor of term limits as I am restoring the constitutional powers to the states. If we diodnt have such a massive fed there would be less investment in being a career federal politician. The taxes would be raised by each state appropriately and spent more efficiently.

    Id also like to see the House terms changed to 4 years. They are constantly in campaign mode.
    Good point on the four years for Congressional Terms and I agree about returning power to the states. Unfortunately that isn't going to happen as long as the leftwing ideologues are in charge. The more dependence they create the less liklihood of that ever happening.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No, my position is that you have a bad case of BDS and ignore what is going on right now. Bush was hardly flawless but he didn't create the mess we have today and honest people know that. It is total and complete bs to ignore reality and history. Democrats controlled the Congress thus the budget and legislative process from 2007-2011 yet for some reason Bush was a king and caused all the problems but Obama had nothing to do with 2007-2008 or 2009-2011? What is frustrating, you don't have the intellectual honesty to admit it.
    Create? No...he didnt create the mess but he certainly bears his share of responsibility. Anyone that thinks Bush is at fault is an idiot or they have absolutely zero understanding of the federal government, powers, duties, etc. I would bet on the first option...anyone that believes it is all Bush's fault is a myopic ideological idiot, just like anyone that believes it is Obamas fault is equally a moron.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Create? No...he didnt create the mess but he certainly bears his share of responsibility. Anyone that thinks Bush is at fault is an idiot or they have absolutely zero understanding of the federal government, powers, duties, etc. I would bet on the first option...anyone that believes it is all Bush's fault is a myopic ideological idiot, just like anyone that believes it is Obamas fault is equally a moron.
    There definitely are a lot of those with the "first option" who simply cannot admit it. There are three equal branches of govt. for a reason but many here don't seem to understand that.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Good point on the four years for Congressional Terms and I agree about returning power to the states. Unfortunately that isn't going to happen as long as the leftwing ideologues are in charge. The more dependence they create the less liklihood of that ever happening.
    This is just insanity speaking. How on Earth is that due to "leftwing ideologues" since Bush and Republicans congrolled the government for years and did nothing about it? You probably balme Democrats when it rains too, huh?

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No, my position is that you have a bad case of BDS and ignore what is going on right now. Bush was hardly flawless but he didn't create the mess we have today and honest people know that. It is total and complete bs to ignore reality and history. Democrats controlled the Congress thus the budget and legislative process from 2007-2011 yet for some reason Bush was a king and caused all the problems but Obama had nothing to do with 2007-2008 or 2009-2011? What is frustrating, you don't have the intellectual honesty to admit it.
    I said we've had two failures in a row. Waiting for you to show me that Bush had no responsibility....


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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post

    Create? No...he didnt create the mess but he certainly bears his share of responsibility. Anyone that thinks Bush is at fault is an idiot or they have absolutely zero understanding of the federal government, powers, duties, etc. I would bet on the first option...anyone that believes it is all Bush's fault is a myopic ideological idiot, just like anyone that believes it is Obamas fault is equally a moron.
    I don't see anyone blaming only Bush. He had a lot of help from Republicans and a little from Democrats.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    just like anyone that believes it is Obamas fault is equally a moron.
    Uh, Con? He just called you a moron....


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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Create? No...he didnt create the mess but he certainly bears his share of responsibility. Anyone that thinks Bush is at fault is an idiot or they have absolutely zero understanding of the federal government, powers, duties, etc. I would bet on the first option...anyone that believes it is all Bush's fault is a myopic ideological idiot, just like anyone that believes it is Obamas fault is equally a moron.
    I agree. It's not all Bush's fault. It's not all the Democrats' fault either. Just like now -- some Obama, some GOP.


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