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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post

    Bush could have vetoed anything that Congress passed. It doesn't become law without the President's signature unless Congress overrides the veto. How many of these economy ruining bills did Bush veto?
    That too is a strawaman ... how many "economy ruining bills" did Democrats even give to Bush to sign?

    Answer: zero

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    That too is a strawaman ... how many "economy ruining bills" did Democrats even give to Bush to sign?

    Answer: zero
    I'm going to give Con the benefit of the doubt. I want to know which bills became law over Bush's veto that drove the economy into recession. In his view. If he's going to pass responsibility down to the Capitol, let's hear how they got around Bush's veto and how that created the recession.


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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post

    I'm going to give Con the benefit of the doubt. I want to know which bills became law over Bush's veto that drove the economy into recession. In his view. If he's going to pass responsibility down to the Capitol, let's hear how they got around Bush's veto and how that created the recession.
    You must have missed the Conservative logic he's applied to this in the past. His position was that when Clinton-D was president with a Republican Congress, the president was responsible; but when Bush-R was president with a Democrat Congress, responsibility magically shifted from the president to the Congress.

    Go figure?

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Ronald Reagan had a sign on his desk saying "The Buck Stops Here." Meaning the decisions were his, and he took responsibility. Apparently the sign on Bush's desk read "The Buck Stops Down the Street with Harry."

    Bush could have vetoed anything that Congress passed. It doesn't become law without the President's signature unless Congress overrides the veto. How many of these economy ruining bills did Bush veto?
    Really? Seems that people love to divert back to Bush to get off the topic of Obama's affect on Congressional elections. I would love to debate Bush with you and prove how wrong you are but not on this thread. What you fail to recognize is that the 2008 policies and 2009 budgets were Democrat supported budgets and Obama voted for them. TARP was Bush legislation that Obama supported.

    Doubt that really matters today and it is obvious that it doesn't matter to the majority today or Obama's ratings would be higher and he wouldn't have lost NY 9.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    TARP was Bush legislation that Obama supported.
    How dare he support Bush's legislation? Is that your outrage? Democrats had the temerity to support Bush's idea?

    Come on. Your position here is that Bush's stewardship of the economy was flawless, and it was all because of the Democrats. Your example is that they supported Bush's legislation??


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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Ronald Reagan had a sign on his desk saying "The Buck Stops Here." Meaning the decisions were his, and he took responsibility. Apparently the sign on Bush's desk read "The Buck Stops Down the Street with Harry."

    Bush could have vetoed anything that Congress passed. It doesn't become law without the President's signature unless Congress overrides the veto. How many of these economy ruining bills did Bush veto?
    And you must HATE Obama for that same thing, right?

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    That too is a strawaman ... how many "economy ruining bills" did Democrats even give to Bush to sign?

    Answer: zero
    You mean they DIDNT run the house and senate in 2007 and 2008? Or were those all GOOD bills?

    Democrats and republicans both have screwed this country up and still do. This whiny its their fault...no its THEIR fault bull**** is pathetic. Its BOTH of their fault. Right now it is President Obama and congresses fault. And hey...if they arent up to the job...lets just kick them all out and start fresh.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    How dare he support Bush's legislation? Is that your outrage? Democrats had the temerity to support Bush's idea?

    Come on. Your position here is that Bush's stewardship of the economy was flawless, and it was all because of the Democrats. Your example is that they supported Bush's legislation??
    No, my position is that you have a bad case of BDS and ignore what is going on right now. Bush was hardly flawless but he didn't create the mess we have today and honest people know that. It is total and complete bs to ignore reality and history. Democrats controlled the Congress thus the budget and legislative process from 2007-2011 yet for some reason Bush was a king and caused all the problems but Obama had nothing to do with 2007-2008 or 2009-2011? What is frustrating, you don't have the intellectual honesty to admit it.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    You mean they DIDNT run the house and senate in 2007 and 2008? Or were those all GOOD bills?

    Democrats and republicans both have screwed this country up and still do. This whiny its their fault...no its THEIR fault bull**** is pathetic. Its BOTH of their fault. Right now it is President Obama and congresses fault. And hey...if they arent up to the job...lets just kick them all out and start fresh.
    The time has come for term limits, IMO. States have it, so why not the Federal Govt?

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Bush was hardly flawless but he didn't create the mess we have today and honest people know that.
    The **** he didn't.


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