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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The media interviewed voters after the election and that is what I was referring to but then I believe you knew that.
    The media interviewed an unknown number of people and published the opinions of the select few that agreed with the opinion they decided to project, because they have a bias -- a bias you're willing to ignore because it happens to temporarily coincide with yours, whereas normally you discard the media as being biased. That's why you're a hypocrite, but then I believe you knew that.
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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

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    No, that is exactly how I described it -- he didn't have a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate, and he had to bargain for those remaining votes. Otherwise, "Obamacare" would've come out looking much different.
    Obamacare shouldn't have come out at all. This country will never support a single payer system for healthcare which is a personal responsibility. Obama got everything he wanted and the results are there for all to see including the voters of NY 9, 25 million unemployed and under employed Americans, 1% GDP growth, 4 trillion added to the debt, rising misery index, declining labor force, and loss of American exceptionalism around the world including Administrative support for Israel.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    The media interviewed an unknown number of people and published the opinions of the select few that agreed with the opinion they decided to project, because they have a bias -- a bias you're willing to ignore because it happens to temporarily coincide with yours, whereas normally you discard the media as being biased. That's why you're a hypocrite, but then I believe you knew that.
    You keep saying you don't support Obama yet you ignore the election results of NY 9 and do your best to defend the position that this was a local election so as to not have to admit that Obama's policies have failed. I believe the people of NY knew that and thus their vote for a Republican for the first time in almost 90 years.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

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    Obama got everything he wanted
    No, he didn't, he got some of what he wanted.

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    and the results are there for all to see including the voters of NY 9, 25 million unemployed and under employed Americans, 1% GDP growth, 4 trillion added to the debt, rising misery index, declining labor force, and loss of American exceptionalism around the world including Administrative support for Israel.
    Jeez, why don't you blame Obamacare for the destruction of the Amazon and the rise of the Anti-Christ while you're at it?
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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You keep saying you don't support Obama yet you ignore the election results of NY 9 and do your best to defend the position that this was a local election so as to not have to admit that Obama's policies have failed. I believe the people of NY knew that and thus their vote for a Republican for the first time in almost 90 years.
    You can believe whatever you want, but I actually followed that election (as a pose to you, who just saw the result and drew the conclusion you wanted to draw), and so I know what happened and why the Democrat lost. If he'd won, you would've just written it off as a Democrat district electing a Democrat -- or even better, you would've claimed that Obama was still in trouble because the Democrat's margin of victory wasn't high enough -- and you would've called any media report to the contrary biased and unreliable. That's what hypocrites do.
    Last edited by TacticalEvilDan; 09-18-11 at 03:59 PM.
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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Pb, I took a civics course and know who controlled the legislative process in 2007-2008 when we went into recession and the financial collapse. I keep asking what Democrats did to prevent that collapse and I see nothing then but I do see what is going on today so the problems continue indicating that the Democrats are doing today what they did in 2007-2008, making things worse.
    And I know the fraud by Wall Street and the investment banks was what caused the near economic collapse and I also know Bush didn't want to stop the predatory loaning practices by the banks. I also know the housing bubble started years before and Bush did nothing to stop it. In fact he tried to get control of Fannie & Freddie by putting them under the treasury department. This was because he wanted 100% financing for low income earners. He spoke of this in speeches.


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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

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    Oh, I see, so re-wrting history now? what was the Democrat numbers in 2009-2010. Do you know what a filibuster proof Senate is?
    Oh? How many filibusters did Democrats defeat with a cloture vote that required 60 Democrats to break? I'd wager you don't even know. All you know is the rightwing talking point, "filibuster-proof"

    FYI, Democrats had 60 Senators in July, 2009 after Al Franken was sworn in and it lasted until February, 2010, when Scott Brown took the Senate's 41st seat for Republicans.

    During that period there were 40 cloture votes to defeat filibusters by Republicans (a remarkable number in itself for a 7 month period). Of those 40 cloture votes, there was a grand total of 5 cloture votes that required all 60 Democrats to prevail.

    U.S. Senate: Reference Home > 111th

    So claiming Republicans were victims to the Democrat "filibuster-proof" Senate is more than a stretch.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    No, he didn't, he got some of what he wanted.



    Jeez, why don't you blame Obamacare for the destruction of the Amazon and the rise of the Anti-Christ while you're at it?
    Why do you think it is the Federal Government's role thus the Federal Taxpayer to fund healthcare for all Americans? What does the Federal Govt. know about the healthcare issues in your local community. Healthcare is a state and local issue plus personal responsibility.

    Obama took office at the end of a recession, his first action was a stimulus plan that failed so instead of fixing the stimulus shortfalls he went on to Obamacare. That is either incompetence or the proof that he is a leftwing ideologue in a Center right country. That is what turned people against him including those in NY 9. Had Obama spent the simulus money wisely he wouldn't be in this trouble today again showing incompetence or desire to turn this country into a European socialist economy. He is living up to his resume.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

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    Why do you think it is the Federal Government's role thus the Federal Taxpayer to fund healthcare for all Americans? What does the Federal Govt. know about the healthcare issues in your local community. Healthcare is a state and local issue plus personal responsibility.
    What a pathetic strawman, Con. What does the federal government know about military issues but it's still their job to provide a military for the nation the same way it's their job to provide for the general welfare of the nation.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

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    Pb, I took a civics course and know who controlled the legislative process in 2007-2008 when we went into recession and the financial collapse. I keep asking what Democrats did to prevent that collapse and I see nothing then but I do see what is going on today so the problems continue indicating that the Democrats are doing today what they did in 2007-2008, making things worse.
    Ronald Reagan had a sign on his desk saying "The Buck Stops Here." Meaning the decisions were his, and he took responsibility. Apparently the sign on Bush's desk read "The Buck Stops Down the Street with Harry."

    Bush could have vetoed anything that Congress passed. It doesn't become law without the President's signature unless Congress overrides the veto. How many of these economy ruining bills did Bush veto?


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