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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Hey, look at that! Someone who lives in the district pretty much saying what I just said after doing some reading and critical thinking! It's almost as if the Republican party and the mainstream had absolutely no idea what the **** they're talking about!
    The candidate himself even believes it was a referendum on Obama but I guess Thunder knows best.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I guess you missed the part where the guy who actually lives in that district explained how you, the Republican party and the mainstream media have no idea what you're talking about.
    Right I should accept someone's word in a debate forum and not the words of the candidate himself. Got it

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

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    The candidate himself even believes it was a referendum on Obama but I guess Thunder knows best.
    He came to this race out of the New York state legislature, where the re-election rates are obscenely high, in a district that he could easily have won if he just paid attention to what he was doing. He ran his race like he shouldn't have had to work in order to win the election, and he lost because of that and because of positions he took while in the state legislature.

    That he is describing his loss as a referendum proves only that he is a tool who can't admit that he lost on his own merits.

    I guess it's easier to say that the guy who actually lives there doesn't know what he's talking about than it is to admit that you might've been wrong.
    Last edited by TacticalEvilDan; 09-17-11 at 06:04 PM.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The candidate himself even believes it was a referendum on Obama but I guess Thunder knows best.

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    and this was the unpatriotic accomplishment of Turner, former Mayor Ed Koch, and Councilman Dov Hikind. Traitors all.

    if Weprin REALLY wanted to win, he would have quickly squashed this unpatriotic and unAmerican idea of turning the election into a referendum on Obama's foreign policy.
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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    He came to this race out of the New York state legislature, where the re-election rates are obscenely high, and he ran a race in a district that he could easily have won if he just paid attention to what he was doing. He ran his race like he shouldn't have had to work in order to win the election, and he lost because of that and because of positions he took while in the state legislature.

    That he is describing his loss as a referendum proves only that the candidate is a tool who can't admit that he lost on his own merits.
    Think about it, why would any Obama supporter admit what most of us know, that NY 9 was a referendum on Obama. Liberal cult followers are still enamored t with the Obama rhetoric and ignore the Obama results. Seems quotes from Democrat Politicians also admit that Obama is in trouble, but if you are a true believer an Obama supporter will never admit that.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I would have thought that Pb would have heard about DeFazio's statement as Oregon isn't that big. My bet is Pb didn't want to hear it thus didn't. It is amazing what loyalty some here have for Obama, almost like it is an act
    Peter DeFazio is one of the most progressive members of Congress, it's not hard to understand why he's upset with President Obama. As I've mentioned before, he's one Obama's biggest critics.


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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    and this was the unpatriotic accomplishment of Turner, former Mayor Ed Koch, and Councilman Dov Hikind. Traitors all.

    if Weprin REALLY wanted to win, he would have quickly squashed this unpatriotic and unAmerican idea of turning the election into a referendum on Obama's foreign policy.
    Unpatriotic and un American? Now those are words I have heard used to define Obama. What exactly has Obama done that benefits the Jewish community and their love for Israel? Obviously you haven't been paying attention to the Mideast.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Think about it, why would any Obama supporter admit what most of us know, that NY 9 was a referendum on Obama.
    I'm not an Obama supporter. I've stated that on several occasions on this very forum, and have taken issue with him on a number of occasions. I'm not a leftie, a libbo, a left-winger or a Democrat.

    You can keep repeating your mantra about it being a referendum over and over and over, but that doesn't make it true, and it's no substitute for an actual refutation of anything I've said about the race.

    Are you going to actually contradict anything I've said with facts, or are you going to stick to rhetoric?
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Peter DeFazio is one of the most progressive members of Congress, it's not hard to understand why he's upset with President Obama. As I've mentioned before, he's one Obama's biggest critics.
    And the rest?

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I'm not an Obama supporter. I've stated that on several occasions on this very forum, and have taken issue with him on a number of occasions. I'm not a leftie, a libbo, a left-winger or a Democrat.

    You can keep repeating your mantra about it being a referendum over and over and over, but that doesn't make it true, and it's no substitute for an actual refutation of anything I've said about the race.

    Are you going to actually contradict anything I've said with facts, or are you going to stick to rhetoric?
    I posted the Democrat candidate's own words, other quotes of politicians have been posted. What more do you want? There are 23 Democrat Senators on the ballot in 2012, how do you think they feel after this election and do you believe they think it is local?

    Comments from the District

    Those district demographics customarily spell victory for a Democrat, but in a smattering of interviews on the day after the election, former Obama supporters gave voice to their changed feelings.

    "Unfortunately the Democrats have let us down lately," said Anne Lenihan, 65, of Queens, who said she supported the president in 2008. "I'm disappointed in the Democrats and we need change."

    "In 2008 I voted for Obama, and I made a big mistake then," said Kelly Redmond, 47, who cited the economy and the president's policy toward Israel as reasons for supporting Turner.

    Concerns that surfaced in the race included an administration policy in the Mideast that some Jews find not sufficiently supportive of Israel. Obama's urging of Israel to halt housing settlements in the West Bank has been a point of controversy in the district. Also, Weprin drew criticism for his vote in the New York Assembly in favor of a measure legalizing gay marriage, legislation generally unpopular with Orthodox Jews.

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