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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    That was England and the UN. Let them deal with it. Besides, that was over 60 years ago. They're big boys and girls now; they can take care of themselves.
    We had a significant hand in that entire situation. You can pass the buck if you want, but we were definitely involved. As for "screw it; every man for himself"...I get that you're a hardcore, no-government, **** the government kind of libertarian, but use some logic here. Once you've totaled the other guys car you have an obligation to provide your information and help get it fixed/replaced. In other words, you can't screw the pooch and walk out on the puppies. That would be far more disasterous than big government involvment.
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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

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    Yeah, let's let the entirety of the Middle East be turned into a massive caliphate run by the Muslim Brotherhood. Fear of Israel is the only thing that keeps that region in check. They "take care of themselves" better than any nation in the world; I wish we had their resolve.
    Then let them at it. Wish we had their resolve? Pfft. I'll take our strength over their resolve any day; apparently they still need our strength regardless of their resolve. Let them take care of themselves, stop spending money on it. Not our country, not our problem.
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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Only a sith deals in absolutes...
    The irony of that statement must have been lost on you...

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    We had a significant hand in that entire situation. You can pass the buck if you want, but we were definitely involved. As for "screw it; every man for himself"...I get that you're a hardcore, no-government, **** the government kind of libertarian, but use some logic here. Once you've totaled the other guys car you have an obligation to provide your information and help get it fixed/replaced. In other words, you can't screw the pooch and walk out on the puppies. That would be far more disasterous than big government involvment.
    If I wreck a car, sure. But if I gift something, I'm not responsible for how that gift is used. How long? How long is our "obligation" to this crap? If it's forever, let Palestine have it back. I'm not willing to forever fund another government like this. They're self-sufficient have have more than enough ability to self-govern. It is no longer our responsibility.
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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    The results of this election, and others, are giving me a sliver of hope of an economic turnaround in the not-too-distant future.

    In fact, if polls are reading the same way by next summer, we could see a spike in the markets and a drop in unemployment as corporate America starts to try to get a jump on their competition in hopes of a more business friendly and PREDICTABLE government on the way.

    Of course, the liberals here and everywhere will claim that "see, Obama's policies started working, and you kicked him out." Uh, no, things turned around in anticipation of getting his pathetic ass out of office, as well as taking over the Senate and gaining a firmer grasp on the House.

    Liberalism is being exposed to the masses for what it is. People finally understand that hope isn't a strategy.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    If I wreck a car, sure. But if I gift something, I'm not responsible for how that gift is used. How long? How long is our "obligation" to this crap? If it's forever, let Palestine have it back. I'm not willing to forever fund another government like this. They're self-sufficient have have more than enough ability to self-govern. It is no longer our responsibility.
    We put them in a situation which we should have logically known would lead to violence and ongoing battles. It's like throwing a feral cat into a cage with a hungry pitpull. We're obligated to that cat until the pitbull is no longer a risk.
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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Don't most politicians do that?
    Nope. Most politicians in the U.S. support Israel.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Nope nope.

    Bush was hated because of Iraq, plain and simple.

    For both Blair and Bush, Iraq was their undoing.
    Hmmm. You call being elected for a 2nd term an "undoing?" Wow!

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Isn't that what liberals, and the media was saying after Scott Brown? then we had '10....Ok.


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    No this is a totally different situation in NY....those lifelong democrats didnt switch to gop overnight.....they are pissed at obama for his stance on palestinians and israel...especially his speech where he said israel needs to abide by borders from before the war....that was the killer right there with the orthodox jewish vote in that district

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Yeah...if he wants to get re elected that is...
    I don't see President Obama selling out his principles when it comes to Israel. We'll see.

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