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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So during Bush's Presidency, no one blamed the say economy or wars or anything of the sort on Clinton? Not at all? I mean, you were alive then, your experience and wisdom should be able to guide us all to the light of truth. But in case it doesn't, here's John Stewart.

    http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tu...-29-2010/blame
    that was a waste of 8.50 minutes.Stewart is a comedian and has some good material but I cannot take him, sorry.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post

    Seems Obama not strongly supporting israel has come back to haunt him....the orthodox jews which have a huge community in this district voted for the GOP.
    This does not bode well for Obama...if the jews abandon him...they are some of his staunchest supporters and donors. I am ALL FOR total support of Israel.

    Republican wins Democratic New York House seat - The Washington Post


    Bob Turner, the winner, cast the election as a referendum on Obama’s stewardship of the economy and, in the state’s Ninth Congressional District, which has a large population of Orthodox Jewish voters, the president’s position on Israel.
    I think the GOP is grasping for straws if they think Tuesday's elections are foreboding for Obama. One seat was in Nevada which has never been held by a Democrat and another seat in New York which was long held by Democrats was lost after a Democrat resigned in humiliation. Meanwhile, also in New York were 6 other races for state assembley seats and Democrats swept all 6.

    Make of that as you will.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    that was a waste of 8.50 minutes.Stewart is a comedian and has some good material but I cannot take him, sorry.
    So blow up the messenger to avoid the message? Nice. He clearly demonstrated the Blame Clinton arguments which perpetuated through the end of the Bush administration. You have no high moral ground here. You're bitching at the Democrats for doing the same exact thing the Republicans did when roles were reversed.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    I think the GOP is grasping for straws if they think Tuesday's elections are foreboding for Obama. One seat was in Nevada which has never been held by a Democrat and another seat in New York which was long held by Democrats was lost after a Democrat resigned in humiliation. Meanwhile, also in New York were 6 other races for state assembley seats and Democrats swept all 6.
    So you're saying that if we take a look at the bigger picture and take into account multiple elections, we do not see the rebuke against Obama and Democrats that people who took this one data point and exalted it were trying to make it seem? Interesting.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post

    So you're saying that if we take a look at the bigger picture and take into account multiple elections, we do not see the rebuke against Obama and Democrats that people who took this one data point and exalted it were trying to make it seem? Interesting.
    I honestly don't see how Republicans' winning 2 out of 8 elections indicates it's about Obama.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    I honestly don't see how Republicans' winning 2 out of 8 elections indicates it's about Obama.
    It doesn't say it at all. But it seems that data analysis is not something a lot of people understand so well.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    You don't recall? Seriously? OK, it's possible that you missed all the "blame Clinton" stuff. Or have forgotten about it. Watch the clip, it highlights some of it.
    It's really irrelevant whether they did or not. Everyone wants someone else to blame. I do not imagine that history will treat Bush II real well but the economy right now is Obama's.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So during Bush's Presidency, no one blamed the say economy or wars or anything of the sort on Clinton? Not at all? I mean, you were alive then, your experience and wisdom should be able to guide us all to the light of truth. But in case it doesn't, here's John Stewart.

    http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tu...-29-2010/blame
    Thanks for that link -- it was hysterical!

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    It's really irrelevant whether they did or not. Everyone wants someone else to blame. I do not imagine that history will treat Bush II real well but the economy right now is Obama's.
    And that's not what I'm really saying. My main point was those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So during Bush's Presidency, no one blamed the say economy or wars or anything of the sort on Clinton? Not at all? I mean, you were alive then, your experience and wisdom should be able to guide us all to the light of truth. But in case it doesn't, here's John Stewart.

    http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tu...-29-2010/blame
    As usual, Jon Stewart nails it. Thanks for the post.


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