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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Blame Clinton for what? Clinton supporters claim that Bush inherited a strong economy and a surplus so what was there to blame him for?
    So during Bush's Presidency, no one blamed the say economy or wars or anything of the sort on Clinton? Not at all? I mean, you were alive then, your experience and wisdom should be able to guide us all to the light of truth. But in case it doesn't, here's John Stewart.

    http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tu...-29-2010/blame
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    It is what it is, you either work from within or work hard to change it, what are you doing to change it? What office have you run for to change the politics?
    If you think "it is what it is" then stop whining about the debt because that is what the two-party system gives. What have you done to prevent spending? You have voted for people that continually spend. So maybe before you worry about what I'm doing, you should worry about what your doing to continue the spending cycle.

    How does doing the same thing over and over again voting for candidates that overspend with the same result of overspending solve the problem of spending? Answer is, it doesn't.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Are you seriously arguing about creating a thread for another topic. Create the thread or not but please stop the derailment.
    I was serious since the person had made a totally off topic comment. I was trying to keep this discussion on topic. But, I'm sure that you think that what Bush people said about Clinton is on topic. Pshaw!

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So during Bush's Presidency, no one blamed the say economy or wars or anything of the sort on Clinton? Not at all? I mean, you were alive then, your experience and wisdom should be able to guide us all to the light of truth. But in case it doesn't, here's John Stewart.

    http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tu...-29-2010/blame
    I blamed Clinton supporters for their lies about the surplus and gave Clinton total credit for implementing an economic policy that gave total control of the Congress to the Republicans and then for signing GOP Budgets giving him less than he wanted.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    If you think "it is what it is" then stop whining about the debt because that is what the two-party system gives. What have you done to prevent spending? You have voted for people that continually spend. So maybe before you worry about what I'm doing, you should worry about what your doing to continue the spending cycle.

    How does doing the same thing over and over again voting for candidates that overspend with the same result of overspending solve the problem of spending? Answer is, it doesn't.
    How have you made a difference? What office have you run for to change the direction of this country?

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I blamed Clinton supporters for their lies about the surplus and gave Clinton total credit for implementing an economic policy that gave total control of the Congress to the Republicans and then for signing GOP Budgets giving him less than he wanted.
    So during Bush's presidency, no one blamed the economy or the wars or anything of the sort of Clinton? Not at all? That's the question I asked. But nice dodge.

    Hell, in that clip it shows Fox News blaming Clinton for the Gulf Oil Spill. As I said, same ****, different name.
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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So during Bush's presidency, no one blamed the economy or the wars or anything of the sort of Clinton? Not at all? That's the question I asked. But nice dodge.

    Hell, in that clip it shows Fox News blaming Clinton for the Gulf Oil Spill. As I said, same ****, different name.
    I don't recall nor would I support Bush or any Bush supporter blaming Clinton 2 1/2 years into the Bush term and the Bush actual results show there was no reason to blame Clinton as the economy was doing quite well. Bush took office with a 9.9 trillion GDP and left it at 14.4 trillion plus a AAA Credit rating.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I don't recall nor would I support Bush or any Bush supporter blaming Clinton 2 1/2 years into the Bush term and the Bush actual results show there was no reason to blame Clinton as the economy was doing quite well. Bush took office with a 9.9 trillion GDP and left it at 14.4 trillion plus a AAA Credit rating.
    You don't recall? Seriously? OK, it's possible that you missed all the "blame Clinton" stuff. Or have forgotten about it. Watch the clip, it highlights some of it.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    You don't recall? Seriously? OK, it's possible that you missed all the "blame Clinton" stuff. Or have forgotten about it. Watch the clip, it highlights some of it.
    When were those video's made and by whom? How are they relevant today?

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    When were those video's made and by whom? How are they relevant today?
    It's a clip from the Daily Show (as it says in the link name). You were sitting there bitching about how people blame Bush for bad things happening to Obama like it's the first time that it's ever happened. When in reality, it's par for the course as it was a heavily utilized excuse during the Bush Presidency.

    In fact, this is what yous said

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Bush is out of office yet 2 1/2 years into the Obama years he is still responsible? That is what is wrong with liberals no concept of civics, no concept of leadership, and no concept of how our economy works.
    Bush is out for over 2 years and he's still "responsible"? This is the Blame Bush argument you're using. Because of this "Blame Bush" argument, you go on further to state that "That is what is wrong with liberals no concept of civics, no concept of leadership, and no concept of how economy works," Right? you said this. I'm merely showing that your side engaged IN THE SAME EXACT THING. So is that what is wrong with conservatives then? No concept of civics, no concept of leadership, and no concept of how our economy works? Or is this just another partisan argument aimed to belittle one side of the Republocrats while ignoring that your side does the same thing?

    As I said, same **** different name. And you want me to believe there is significant difference between the two main parties? Ha! Peas in a pod.
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    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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