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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    You provided neither. You just called my stance "naive" and then ran away. With age comes senility too, so I'm not just going to take "I'm older, I know better" as proper argument.
    Sounds a lot like a personal attack to me but like with every other personal attack I don't report it as I am big enough and mature enough to handle these attacks. I ran from nothing, you are indeed very naive and looking for that perfect world yet as I pointed out to you if you really wanted that personal world then get off the debate forum and go out and make it happen. It is much easier blaming someone else than doing something else.

    I believe this is a political science project and not a serious attempt to make changes because what you post here isn't going to create the change you want. If you truly want change run for office and take your views to the electorate.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Sounds a lot like a personal attack to me but like with every other personal attack I don't report it as I am big enough and mature enough to handle these attacks. I ran from nothing, you are indeed very naive and looking for that perfect world yet as I pointed out to you if you really wanted that personal world then get off the debate forum and go out and make it happen. It is much easier blaming someone else than doing something else.

    I believe this is a political science project and not a serious attempt to make changes because what you post here isn't going to create the change you want. If you truly want change run for office and take your views to the electorate.
    It's not a personal attack, it's a statement of fact. "I'm older, I know better" is not proper argument, nor will I accept it as such. And your attacks calling me "naive" is just deflection. And you misrepresent my position as well saying I want the "perfect" solution. Try a little honesty please.

    You can believe whatever you want, but I already have my PhD and am completely done with school; so I no longer have these sorts of projects.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    How is that Hope and Change message working out for you? NY 9 is an example of what will happen in 2012 and the results listed are going to assure that

    Poverty In America: A Special Report
    Is the reason you ignored the following post is because it shows your punditry sucks, Con?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    The Jews of NY-9 are not typical. A much larger percentage than usual are Orthodox, a group that has been increasingly willing to vote Republican anyway, but which accounts for only about 10% of the Jewish community. Not only are they more strongly connected to Israel and to Israeli policies that many on the American left oppose, but they lack many of the views that keep the rest of the Jewish community so liberal.


    Non-Orthodox Jews are driven in many ways by social issues and the group identities that go with them. The Jews of NY-9 support gay marriage by only a 45-43% margin, with an Orthodox rabbi being featured in robocalls sponsored by the National Organization for Marriage. Nationally, Jews overall support gay marriage by a 75-18% margin, a result Pew found to be more lopsided than any demographic except atheists.

    » NY-9 Race May Be A Political Awakening In A Jewish Community – But Can These Conditions Be Duplicated? - Le·gal In·sur·rec·tion


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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Well then you'd best try to put up a candidate which can reach out to the third party voters now shouldn't you?
    I am very happy with the choices I have here in TX and happy how the state votes. What I continue to point out to you is the mathematics involved in a third party position today but you ignore that. Tell me how a third party candidate wins today? Your answer is to drop out, waste your vote, versus getting inside the party and making the changes you want. Guess it is easier being in a debate forum vs. actually getting physically involved.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Is the reason you ignored the following post is because it shows your punditry sucks, Con?
    He's older, he knows better. you're being naive.

    Hahah
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I am very happy with the choices I have here in TX and happy how the state votes. What I continue to point out to you is the mathematics involved in a third party position today but you ignore that. Tell me how a third party candidate wins today? Your answer is to drop out, waste your vote, versus getting inside the party and making the changes you want. Guess it is easier being in a debate forum vs. actually getting physically involved.
    I didn't ignore it, in fact I addressed it fully. And AGAIN, I do get involved in many election cycles at the local and state level. If you want to be taken seriously, stop being intellectually dishonest.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    He's older, he knows better. you're being naive.

    Hahah
    I'm older than he is.


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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I'm older than he is.
    Kif...we have a conundrum.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    For those who claim that NY 9 was a referendum against Weiner instead of Obama ignores the poll numbers earlier this summer before the election. This election was a referendum against Obama.

    Poll: Most NY-9 Voters Say Weiner Should Stay | New York Daily News

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Right, Disney, 2 1/2 years later and after having 4 years of Democrat Control of the Legislative Process and purse strings, Liberals still blame the problems on Bush. That is another example of people who don't understand leadership skills and responsibilities. This is the Obama economy and that is a fact. The results today are Obama's and the results when he took office were just as much the Congress under Democrat control as it was Bush's but liberals who are brainwashed don't seem to accept that fact.

    LOL Con....its always funny to see you run from your failed hero's record. GWB is absolutely responsible for bankrupting this country. Obama is absolutely responsible for not being successful in rebuilding the economy. I fault Obama and congress for that....you, on the otherhand continue to think that GWB was a genius....how telling.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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