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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

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    Only a sith deals in absolutes...

    Thus showing that Obi-wan is a Sith

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    [QUOTE=pbrauer;1059797847You do realize Nazi Germany was right wing, not left wing, don't you?[/QUOTE]

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    The Nazis of Germany were not right wing, they were left wing. Socialists.
    Oh the wonders of Godwin. I'm not shocked with it coming from one of the biggest partisan hacks on the left on this forum and one that can hold his own on the right.

    Nazi Germany when compared to modern day American politics and views regarding "left" and "right" would actually be best described as centrist. Various portions of the government could be viewed as relating to both far left and far right ideological beliefs in relation to the modern view of those things. To try and place Nazi Germany on either side...and specifically to attempt to do it in such a way as to suggest its relatable to a significant modern political entity...is just hyper partisan bull**** and an emotional plea to attempt to tie one of the most, if not THE most, hated regime of the modern era to political enemies to score worthless political points. Absolutely digusting.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    There have been 43 President of the United States and all have been white except for one.
    The head of the DNC said the following:

    “It’s a very difficult district for Democrats,” said Democratic National Committee chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz, noting its Democratic margins there tend to be the second lowest of all the districts in New York City.
    I just posted the last 30 years of results and could have added another 60 years results for this District and still not find a Republican elected Representative but that this a "difficult district for Democrats?" You don't see the significance of this defeat? Not surprising that you would spin it like Schultz basically trying to divert from reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The head of the DNC said the following:



    I just posted the last 30 years of results and could have added another 60 years results for this District and still not find a Republican elected Representative but that this a "difficult district for Democrats?" You don't see the significance of this defeat? Not surprising that you would spin it like Schultz basically trying to divert from reality.
    I believe the call that in the business 'spin'. They could have said something like 'backlash against Weiner' and had more credibility...instead they say something only their mindless muppets will believe. Luckily for them they will believe anything.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

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    Oh the wonders of Godwin. I'm not shocked with it coming from one of the biggest partisan hacks on the left on this forum and one that can hold his own on the right.

    Nazi Germany when compared to modern day American politics and views regarding "left" and "right" would actually be best described as centrist. Various portions of the government could be viewed as relating to both far left and far right ideological beliefs in relation to the modern view of those things. To try and place Nazi Germany on either side...and specifically to attempt to do it in such a way as to suggest its relatable to a significant modern political entity...is just hyper partisan bull**** and an emotional plea to attempt to tie one of the most, if not THE most, hated regime of the modern era to political enemies to score worthless political points. Absolutely digusting.
    Many do not want to see another totalitarian like movement arise. But because certain legitimate social, political and economic issues weren't addressed in Europe of the early 20th century, it fostered the rise Marxism, Fascism, Nazism. Russia didn't deal with her problems and there was a revolution, eventually commandeered by the Bolsheviks. Fascism took over in Italy. There were pro-Nazi/socialist movements with a lot of strength in the US, UK and France. The axis powers went off the deep end faster than we did, and in opposing them, we walked away from the brink.


    There are some truths espoused by the Nazis. Jews were money lenders because Catholics were preventing from lending money and charging interest by the rules of the Church. So the Jews filled a need there. The downside of being the minority was when the nobles didn't want to/couldn't pay back the loan, it was easy to default by starting a violent riot....kill all the Jews. The fact is, Jewish ownership and control of financial institutions far exceeded their percentage of the general population.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    The Nazis of Germany were not right wing, they were left wing. Socialists

    There's some counter intuitive history around National Socialism...


    National Socialism wasn't what modern political scientists describe as a "left wing" or "liberal" in modern language. In that sense, it's a misuse of the term socialism. It was more of a populist reaction to the stress of the depression and dire circumstances in post war Germany as the communist USSR loomed large from the East. If I had to describe Nazi ideology simply, I'd call it extreme nationalism (to the point of xenophobia) as an opposition to communism. The irony of course, is that the many facets of the Nazi state looked a hell of a lot like communism/socialism.


    Where the Nazi's (not the idiots you see marching with the KKK) most closely resemble the modern American left is their view on humanism. The huge difference is that American liberals aren't nationalistic. If you combine the American liberal love of intellectual hucksterism and their shrill intolerance for anything that doesn't fit their plan with a strong dose of nationalism ...you'd have your fill of secret police and death camps. Liberals are only an election or two away from that scenario. You put a democrat in the White House, give them control of congress, and have a major attack on CONUS like a nuke in LA or the Gay Bay, and you'll see a totalitarian state the likes of which would make the ghost of Stalin green with envy.


    It's fairly easy to find a mainstream Democratic politician in office who is a member of a Communist or Socialist organization (Nancy Pelosi, including her parents), it's kind of hard to find a Republican politician who is a member of the Nazi Party.
    See bolded. From which political end of the political spectrum are more apt to be flag wavers; call the other side unAmerican; choose war over piece; stress militarism; target a certain part of the population such homomsexuals and Muslims like the Jewish people were in Nazi Germany, etc,etc?


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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    See bolded. From which political end of the political spectrum are more apt to be flag wavers; call the other side unAmerican; choose war over piece; stress militarism; target a certain part of the population such homomsexuals and Muslims like the Jewish people were in Nazi Germany, etc,etc?
    Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Its a very difficult district for Democrats, said Democratic National Committee chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz, noting its Democratic margins there tend to be the second lowest of all the districts in New York City.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The head of the DNC said the following:



    I just posted the last 30 years of results and could have added another 60 years results for this District and still not find a Republican elected Representative but that this a "difficult district for Democrats?" You don't see the significance of this defeat? Not surprising that you would spin it like Schultz basically trying to divert from reality.
    The significance may very well not be to your liking, Con, in years where Democrats won special elections Republicans won big in November and when Republicans won special elections Democrats won big in November.


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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    The significance may very well not be to your liking, Con, in years where Democrats won special elections Republicans won big in November and when Republicans won special elections Democrats won big in November.
    Except no President has ever had the results that this President has generated, results apparently that don't matter to you for you are fine thus not worried about anyone else. what is scary is the cult following that this President has in spite of his record which shows there are more leftwing radicals than the media wants to report or you are willing to admit. This is going to be the dirtiest election in U.S. History next year and after Obama loses the cult followers are going to become more enraged. I am just glad I am in TX.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Except no President has ever had the results that this President has generated, results apparently that don't matter to you for you are fine thus not worried about anyone else. what is scary is the cult following that this President has in spite of his record which shows there are more leftwing radicals than the media wants to report or you are willing to admit. This is going to be the dirtiest election in U.S. History next year and after Obama loses the cult followers are going to become more enraged. I am just glad I am in TX.
    I am glad you live in Texas, as well, Con.


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