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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
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    Are you trying to change your story now?
    So 2007-2008 means one year to you? Do you ever say anything of value or just troll

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

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    Tell me the little line about the worlds smallest political quiz and thr 1 question on open borders wasnt supposed to be a little dig at 'real' libertarians. And for the record...have YOU taken it? Just how much a libertarian are you and how much of you refuses to admit it?
    Oh, if I really wanted to get into digs about libertarians, the open borders would only be a mild one.

    I took that quiz long ago and I came up a conservative. For the most part, libertarians and conservatives share the similar ideals when it comes to economic principles. When it comes to social issues, libertarians and liberals are normally on the same page. I think the quiz is a tad bit biased as many more issues should be considered in order to know better where one actually stands.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So 2007-2008 means one year to you? Do you ever say anything of value or just troll
    Did you mean from January, 1 2007 to December, 31 2008? If so just say so.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Oh, if I really wanted to get into digs about libertarians, the open borders would only be a mild one.

    I took that quiz long ago and I came up a conservative. For the most part, libertarians and conservatives share the similar ideals when it comes to economic principles. When it comes to social issues, libertarians and liberals are normally on the same page. I think the quiz is a tad bit biased as many more issues should be considered in order to know better where one actually stands.
    FYI less restrictive borders is both an economic and a social issue.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    For the most part, libertarians and conservatives share the similar ideals when it comes to economic principles. When it comes to social issues, libertarians and liberals are normally on the same page. I think the quiz is a tad bit biased as many more issues should be considered in order to know better where one actually stands.
    That is because we hold closer to classical liberalism of the forefathers. We emphasize liberty and freedom over all else.
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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    That is because we hold closer to classical liberalism of the forefathers. We emphasize liberty and freedom over all else.
    Sorry, but that is not true. If you want to hold a discussion on this we can start a new thread to cover it. The Founders were far closer to conservatives of today than today's libertarians.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    FYI less restrictive borders is both an economic and a social issue.
    And the relevance of this is what?

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Here are the results for the past 30 years, regardless of the borders the Democrat Party lost for the first time in almost 90 years and Weiner beat Turner in 2010 during the Republican tidal wave. No matter how you spin it this is a Democrat disaster and bodes poorly for the future as it should. It is time to focus on the Obama rhetoric not the Obama rhetoric.

    1980: Geraldine Ferraro wins over Republican opposition by 65% to 35%.
    1982: Geraldine Ferraro wins over Republican opposition 79% to 21%.
    1984: Thomas Manton wins over Republican opposition 57% to 43%.
    1986: Thomas Manton wins over Republican opposition 74% to 26%.
    1988: Thomas Manton wins with no Republican opposition, 100% to 0%.
    1990: Thomas Manton wins over Republican opposition 72.5% to 27.5%.
    1992: Chuck Schumer wins with no Republican opposition, 100% to 0%
    1994: Chuck Schumer wins over Republican opposition 75% to 25%.
    1996: Chuck Schumer wins over Republican opposition 79% to 21%.
    1998: Anthony Weiner wins over Republican opposition 73% to 27%.
    2000: Anthony Weiner wins over Republican opposition 70% to 30%.
    2002: Anthony Weiner wins over Republican opposition 67% to 33%.
    2004: Anthony Weiner wins over Republican opposition 73% to 27%.
    2006: Anthony Weiner wins with no Republican opposition, 100% to 0%.
    2008: Anthony Weiner wins with no Republican opposition, 100% to 0%.
    2010: Anthony Weiner wins over Republican opposition (Bob Turner, btw), 64% to 36%.

    From 1980 to 2010, inclusive, the average Democrat received 78% of the vote vs. 22% for the Republican.
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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Shows once again how un Presidential Obama is as he once again proves to be a Community agitator. welcome to 1938 and Nazi Germany. Big brother is watching. How about it, Pb, is this what you support?

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    Where is the gestapo, Con?

    You do realize Nazi Germany was right wing, not left wing, don't you?


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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Where is the gestapo, Con?

    You do realize Nazi Germany was right wing, not left wing, don't you?
    The Nazis of Germany were not right wing, they were left wing. Socialists

    There's some counter intuitive history around National Socialism...


    National Socialism wasn't what modern political scientists describe as a "left wing" or "liberal" in modern language. In that sense, it's a misuse of the term socialism. It was more of a populist reaction to the stress of the depression and dire circumstances in post war Germany as the communist USSR loomed large from the East. If I had to describe Nazi ideology simply, I'd call it extreme nationalism (to the point of xenophobia) as an opposition to communism. The irony of course, is that the many facets of the Nazi state looked a hell of a lot like communism/socialism.


    Where the Nazi's (not the idiots you see marching with the KKK) most closely resemble the modern American left is their view on humanism. The huge difference is that American liberals aren't nationalistic. If you combine the American liberal love of intellectual hucksterism and their shrill intolerance for anything that doesn't fit their plan with a strong dose of nationalism ...you'd have your fill of secret police and death camps. Liberals are only an election or two away from that scenario. You put a democrat in the White House, give them control of congress, and have a major attack on CONUS like a nuke in LA or the Gay Bay, and you'll see a totalitarian state the likes of which would make the ghost of Stalin green with envy.


    It's fairly easy to find a mainstream Democratic politician in office who is a member of a Communist or Socialist organization (Nancy Pelosi, including her parents), it's kind of hard to find a Republican politician who is a member of the Nazi Party.

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