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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Obama received 78% of the Jewish vote, probably the biggest percent block other than the black vote.

    Usually the "Israel is always right" crowd are Right-wing Christians. Jews are smart enough to tell the difference between "I disagree with some policies of the government of Israel" and "I hate Jewish people."


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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    So are you going to insist on answers to hypotheticals too? I have no way of knowing what a president mccain would have done and neither do you. I DO knkw that with a gop AND dem president and congress leaders we have gone from 2 trillion to 15.5 trillion in debt. Sorry man...neither side is on the side of angels. Neither side is worthy of blind partisan support. Threaten that support they count on for power and they might just change.
    You are right, all I know is what has happened. Aren't you speculating what a Libertarian would do and how would he do it with a Congress made up of Democrats and Republicans? What makes a Libertarian making promises that you know they will never deliver because they will never win national office any different than what we have right now, promises that aren't being delivered?

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    That is your opinion but we will never know. What we do know is what has happened. Are you happy with the results Obama has generated?
    Nope, he acted as much as I had expected him to. I didn't hold out any better hope for McCain though. More government, more intervention, more big brother tactics. Peas in a pod.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Usually the "Israel is always right" crowd are Right-wing Christians. Jews are smart enough to tell the difference between "I disagree with some policies of the government of Israel" and "I hate Jewish people."
    Very general statement on your part, where is your proof? Obama got most of the Jewish vote in 2008

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Sounds like if we can't have the best then who cares if we get the worst.

    Or maybe it is get the worst so the public might get so disgusted they will vote for our guy/girl. The problem is that the system makes all but impossible for a third party to be anything but a spoiler.
    That's the true power of the third parties. Plus it's not so much "we can't have the best, then who cares if we get the worst", the Republocrats already represent the worst. So if we're going to get the worst regardless, might as well vote for something else.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Nope, he acted as much as I had expected him to. I didn't hold out any better hope for McCain though. More government, more intervention, more big brother tactics. Peas in a pod.
    Well then congratulations on voting for someone who had no chance of winning and for helping Obama create those numbers. You have no idea what McCain would have done just like you have no idea what a Libertarian would have done with no support in the Congress.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Usually the "Israel is always right" crowd are Right-wing Christians. Jews are smart enough to tell the difference between "I disagree with some policies of the government of Israel" and "I hate Jewish people."
    Take a look at the exit polls. Also take a look at the public policy stances of this administration. It is not a matter of disagreeing "with some policies of the government of Israel" that happens will all administrations.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Well then congratulations on voting for someone who had no chance of winning and for helping Obama create those numbers. You have no idea what McCain would have done just like you have no idea what a Libertarian would have done with no support in the Congress.
    I didn't help Obama create any numbers. Those were other people who voted for him. I contributed nothing to him. I thought you said I couldn't affect the system? Which is it?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I didn't help Obama create any numbers. Those were other people who voted for him. I contributed nothing to him. I thought you said I couldn't affect the system? Which is it?
    If you didn't vote for someone that could have defeated him, then you helped Obama win. Your vote was a spoiler along with all those others who saw what you saw and did nothing about it.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    If you didn't vote for someone that could have defeated him, then you helped Obama win. Your vote was a spoiler along with all those others who saw what you saw and did nothing about it.
    Well I suppose if you don't want me voting that way, you can try to put someone up whom I can vote for. Easy peasy, right? Sorry the GOP abandoned their values and went the way of big, corrupt government. But since I cannot support big, corrupt government there's no way I can support the GOP till they return to their small government roots.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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