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    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    If asking questions is how you answer questions, I shall take the same tactic: What has Obama done about immigration? Who has management authority for ICE? The Senate or the President?

    You and Ikari are grasping at straws in an attempt to deflect the argument away from your votes that helped to cause "ObamaCare." Sorry, that won't work.
    Obamacare is a debacle, but on my scale of givea****-o-meter it rates about a three. You cant blame health care that hasnt even kicked in for consistently high unemployment, for illegal immigration, and for a 15.5 trillion dollar debt. You keep citing Obamacare like a broken record as if Oh...THATS what ****ed the country up. Hell...Id blame dem and rep politicians for all the problems if they were lying about who and what they are. I dont blame them any more. I blame the blind ideologues that go into the polling booth and keep sending them back. And any time I see an ideologue from either the dem or rep side blaming ANYTHING on Libertarians I laugh. Its the ethical equivalent of blaming the Tea Party folks for all the country's problems when in fact it is the dems and reps that have driven the country over a cliff. Your sniffer is off. You are barking up a palm tree looking for possums. You are makin lots of noise...but you aint gonna find them.
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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I didn't follow the campaign, I understand Weprin was a piss poor candidate. He was asked what the national debt was on TV and his answer was $4 trillion. Politics are local and I don't see where this affects Obama who likely will win reelection.
    I'll tell you the second time - because the Republican structured his campaign as an Obama referendum against. It doesn't affect Obama - it's reflects the publics mood of Obama.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I blame the blind ideologues that go into the polling booth and keep sending them back.
    Ding ding ding, we have a winner.

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    And any time I see an ideologue from either the dem or rep side blaming ANYTHING on Libertarians I laugh. Its the ethical equivalent of blaming the Tea Party folks for all the country's problems when in fact it is the dems and reps that have driven the country over a cliff. Your sniffer is off. You are barking up a palm tree looking for possums. You are makin lots of noise...but you aint gonna find them.
    And the truth shall set you free. It's my fault we have Obama Care, not the decades of Republocrat rule. Nope, it's certainly due to party endorsement for a party that hasn't been elected on the nation scale. All our fault.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I guess you should have brought forth a better candidate that could have appeased Vance and me. Then we wouldn't have Obama Care. Guess you ****ed up.[/QUOTEe]

    Elections are about choices not the perfect candidate. You didn't run so therefore you didn't have that perfect candidate. You are left with voting for the best alternative. I didn't like McCain but rather than sit on the sidelines and complain about the end result I voted for McCain to keep Obama out of the WH. Problem is I live in TX and my vote didn't matter as he lost the state by over a million votes. Those looking for the perfect candidate were countered by a majority that elected Obama. Thanks for your principles, we are in the mess we are today because of those principles.
    I dont need a perfect candidate and i dont expect a president to be a king. I would vote Bill Clinton again tomorrow. His personal life is irrelevant to me. He was savvy and knew how tk work with both houses in congress and both parties. I dont want a king but I do want a leader. Im not impressed with any of the republican options. Huntsman is probably the closest to a sane choice that is out there. I suspect we will get Perry and some sort of cute fluffy bunny as a veep option to run against Obama and his clown. Which is why I will most likely vote for Wayne Root.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I'll tell you the second time - because the Republican structured his campaign as an Obama referendum against. It doesn't affect Obama - it's reflects the publics mood of Obama.
    I think you mean the Republicans smeared him.

    Turner has thrown plenty of ugly punches at Weprin to do so, however, running a TV ad criticizing his support for a Muslim group’s right to build a community center near Ground Zero. Turner’s also aggressively courted Jewish voters by accusing the White House of selling out Israel, a particularly galling attack given that Weprin is a practicing Orthodox Jew and has condemned Obama’s approach to the Middle East on similar grounds. Turner scored an endorsement from former Democratic mayor Ed Koch, who cited Israel as the primary factor behind his support.

    David Weprin Gaffes | Anthony Weiner's Seat | TPM | Mediaite


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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Weiner wasn't on the ballot nor was his weiner. This is a Democrat District
    Exactly. It's anger about Weiner and the fact that the Democratic candidate was utterly useless. I believe he's also Jewish running in a heavily jewish area.

    the first Republican to win that District since 1920
    It's highly unlikely that this district has remained with the same borders for 91 years. Pure breathless rhetoric.


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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I think you mean the Republicans smeared him.
    Politics isn't all about unicorns and pretty flowers, or didn't you know that?
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I didn't vote for him though, I bear no responsibility to the numbers of votes he received. Understand the consequences of YOUR actions which forced me to leave the GOP. I do work inside a party, that party is the Libertarian Party.
    Isn't it great to be part of a party with zero power and the inability to enact anything? As I stated you are very naive when it comes to government and how it works. It may make you feel good but it makes you basically irrelevant. Like it or not we have two major parties. If you want to change that you work from the grassroots up not the top down. Democrats are going to control 40% of the voters so you have 60% to work with and when you apply the number that will vote for a Republican you leave yourself with about 30% and that isn't enough to win national elections. You need to peel off some of those Democrats first and then some Republicans. Until that happens you have basically nothing.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I think you mean the Republicans smeared him.




    David Weprin Gaffes | Anthony Weiner's Seat | TPM | Mediaite
    Keep spinning, this is a District that hasn't voted for a Republican since 1923 so now all you can do is blame the Democrat and not your parties policies. Your party brought out Ryancare and lost. Your party brought out Bill Clinton and lost. Your Party has adopted a party that doesn't support Israel and you lost. You can complain about the candidate but all that does is ignore the issues which you do all the time.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Exactly. It's anger about Weiner and the fact that the Democratic candidate was utterly useless. I believe he's also Jewish running in a heavily jewish area.



    It's highly unlikely that this district has remained with the same borders for 91 years. Pure breathless rhetoric.
    Here are the results for the past 30 years, regardless of the borders the Democrat Party lost for the first time in almost 90 years and Weiner beat Turner in 2010 during the Republican tidal wave. No matter how you spin it this is a Democrat disaster and bodes poorly for the future as it should. It is time to focus on the Obama rhetoric not the Obama rhetoric.

    1980: Geraldine Ferraro wins over Republican opposition by 65% to 35%.
    1982: Geraldine Ferraro wins over Republican opposition 79% to 21%.
    1984: Thomas Manton wins over Republican opposition 57% to 43%.
    1986: Thomas Manton wins over Republican opposition 74% to 26%.
    1988: Thomas Manton wins with no Republican opposition, 100% to 0%.
    1990: Thomas Manton wins over Republican opposition 72.5% to 27.5%.
    1992: Chuck Schumer wins with no Republican opposition, 100% to 0%
    1994: Chuck Schumer wins over Republican opposition 75% to 25%.
    1996: Chuck Schumer wins over Republican opposition 79% to 21%.
    1998: Anthony Weiner wins over Republican opposition 73% to 27%.
    2000: Anthony Weiner wins over Republican opposition 70% to 30%.
    2002: Anthony Weiner wins over Republican opposition 67% to 33%.
    2004: Anthony Weiner wins over Republican opposition 73% to 27%.
    2006: Anthony Weiner wins with no Republican opposition, 100% to 0%.
    2008: Anthony Weiner wins with no Republican opposition, 100% to 0%.
    2010: Anthony Weiner wins over Republican opposition (Bob Turner, btw), 64% to 36%.

    From 1980 to 2010, inclusive, the average Democrat received 78% of the vote vs. 22% for the Republican.

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