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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Obama won in 2008 with 52% of the vote. Today his job approval rating is around 40%, what happened to those 12% that voted for him in 2008?
    I think many are still 'hopeful'. Many are pissed for completely different reasons...they dont think he has gone far enough.

    At the end of the day, unless republicans offer different/better, who cares?

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    So you are comparing an actual vote count to a poll of a few people... hmmmmmzzz yea very comparable.......
    I am looking at the national polls, Gallup Today, showing Obama with an approval rating of 40% and pointing out that Obama won with 52% of the vote. Then there is the NY 9 race with 4-1 Democrats and a Republican candidate running against the Obama record which the Democrat candidate supported. The Republican took the election 54-46% and was the first Republican that won in that district since the early 1920's. That says a lot, JAR down 12% and losing a 4-1 Democrat District. Love the liberal spin on that one.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I think many are still 'hopeful'. Many are pissed for completely different reasons...they dont think he has gone far enough.

    At the end of the day, unless republicans offer different/better, who cares?
    Those that don't think he has gone far enough are still going to vote for him. In NY 9 the 4-1 Democratic District went 54-46% for the Republican who ran against the Obama record. That is a signal that cannot be discounted.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    U.S. Senator Charles E. Schumer is next.
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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Obama won in 2008 with 52% of the vote. Today his job approval rating is around 40%, what happened to those 12% that voted for him in 2008?
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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Obama won in 2008 with 52% of the vote. Today his job approval rating is around 40%, what happened to those 12% that voted for him in 2008?
    And you are equating a disapproval of Obama to be an approval of the GOP.Many people are unhappy with Obama because he appeases the right far too often. They aren't going to go out and vote GOP just because of that.I think the right is making the mistake of 04 and being to "sure" that Obama will be ousted like the Dems thought about Bush.If the GOP puts up a "Kerry" candidate, Obama will be in the WH for another 4 years.So far with min wage Perry, flip flop Romney, and bat**** crazy Bachman things aren't looking too gold for the GOP. I think the right is going to "Kerry" this next election.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No different than a Democrat in TX vs. one in NY. What does that have to do with the fact that NY 9 hasn't elected a Republican since the early 20's and elected one yesterday? This was Chuck Schumer's former seat. Think about it. I posted the issues and those issues went right after Obama and the Republican won. That speaks volumes.
    No, it really doesn't. You have no statistics to back the point you're trying to make, you only have 1 data point. Maybe people are pissed at all incumbents, regardless of political affiliation and this change is but the first in an avalanche. Maybe people are just pissed at the democrats; but you can't really say anything with any amount of confidence or significance from one data point.
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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I voted an independent ballot and Bob Barr as a presidential candidate. I would have voted for Hillary and hoped she had the political smarts her husband has. I have voted in every election i could since i was 18 includin absentee ballots from places most people couldnt spell let alone find on a map.
    And, some others like you voted for the Libertarian candidate too. And many others sat at home because they could not see a difference. And, some even thought that Barack Obama was going to get this country on a good path to prosperity and good times. Unfortunately, the signs were there and all of you missed them or ignored them. You asked if I was proud to vote for a Retard. The answer is yes. I voted to stop Obama from becoming President. Now, because of those of you who did not vote for McCain, we have "ObamaCare." Would that have happened under a McCain Administration? No. We have a President who apologizes for all of the time for the U.S. Would McCain do that? No. Hmmmm. Libertarian? Ron Paul? Maybe you would be pleased with the apologies. Oh well, I am not. Are you proud of doing nothing to stop that "ObamaCare?" I would be ashamed, but I understand that some do not care whether we have government run health care insurance or not.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    And, some others like you voted for the Libertarian candidate too. And many others sat at home because they could not see a difference. And, some even thought that Barack Obama was going to get this country on a good path to prosperity and good times. Unfortunately, the signs were there and all of you missed them or ignored them. You asked if I was proud to vote for a Retard. The answer is yes. I voted to stop Obama from becoming President. Now, because of those of you who did not vote for McCain, we have "ObamaCare." Would that have happened under a McCain Administration? No. We have a President who apologizes for all of the time for the U.S. Would McCain do that? No. Hmmmm. Libertarian? Ron Paul? Maybe you would be pleased with the apologies. Oh well, I am not. Are you proud of doing nothing to stop that "ObamaCare?" I would be ashamed, but I understand that some do not care whether we have government run health care insurance or not.
    I think this was a complete crap argument with nothing of substance to back it up. You're essentially saying that we have to vote Republocrat. That's bull****. Voting for the lesser of two evils (and Obama was that lesser last time) leaves you with evil. The system as set up does not work if I vote for someone I don't like only to keep someone I like less out. It works when I vote for the person I have the most confidence in, who best echos my own political platform, and one whom I would be comfortable with lending my authority and sovereignty to. Sorry if the Republicans can't field such a candidate, but I won't vote for them until they do. Maybe you should stop putting up crappy candidates and then I'd support them. But I'm not going to support any candidate I don't feel would be good for the Republic. Neither Obama nor McCain fit that bill. I'm done voting for the lesser of two evils and watching the Republic suffer because of it. My vote goes to the best candidate, the one who I feel will do the best job regardless of "chances of winning" or other BS crap non-thinkers try to throw out there to stop people from exercising their right to vote for the best candidate and instead accept the lesser of two evils.

    I want the system more open, not less. Anything else is retarded and a serious threat to the future of the Republic.
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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Romney wouldn't be too different, neither would Perry in all reality. Actually, that guy is a bit of a nut so there is some gamble there. Paul, no not at all. But he also is an outlier and also most likely won't win the nomination. If he did, I'd probably vote for him in the main election. As I said earlier, the Republicrats would have to put up an excellent candidate before I'd vote for them again. Their standard stock is...well, standard.
    Got it! You would rather vote for someone who cannot possibly win and who will have no impact on the resulting Administration rather than voting for someone, who could. It is people who did not vote for McCain or who voted for Obama that got us "ObamaCare." I'm glad I don't have to explain why I, in effect, sat on the sidelines and allowed that to happen. I guess we all have our crosses to bear.

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