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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Please provide me with a list of things the Republicans have done since 2007 when the Democrats took control of the Congress. NY 9 has a 4-1 ratio of Democrats to Republicans and many of those Democrats pulled the lever for a Republican for the first time in their life. Do you honestly believe that this wasn't a referendum on Obama? Do you know who Wall Street supported in 2008 with their wallets? Seems according to you the People's interest are businesses like Solyndra, Federal Spending for state responsibility issues like teachers, firefighters, and police, expanding Medicaid and Unemployment Insurance. How is it in the people's interest to fund those programs indefinitely and increasing the burden on the states when the federal taxpayer money runs out?
    Damn Conservative, you're a hard guy to stay behind. I'm conservative too, but this didn't just happen from 2007 the build up to this has been coming for decades, and it included Democrats and Republicans. They (from both parties) can say they didn't see this coming, but that is admitting their shortcomings and short sightedness. Seeing how those elected officials are suppose to be our brightest and best, it speaks loudly how they aren't concerned with the state of this country near as much as they are with their own well being.

    Yes nothing was done since 2007 to prevent the fall, and that was the Democrats fault just as much as Bush's . damn I don't know about you, but I just can't believe that with all the information our government gets monthly on such matters, that no one seen it coming. What is apparent is that if they did, they sure didn't take any action to stop, slow, or even attempt to make it less drastic then it ended up becoming.

    Where you and I differ on things is where to place the blame, it belongs to both parties, we aren't 15 trillion dollars in debt because of Obama, or because of Bush, our government has consistently out spent what it has taken in for decades.

    So while we made wholesale changes in 2006 and 2008 those changes were made because of the direction this country was moving in. People have seen that those changes have only increased those very same problems, thus you had the 2010 elections, and in My opinion you are going to see whole sale changes again in 2012.

    One thing is sure, we have seen no fiscally conservative, in either party for a long time... but IMO we are moving in that direction, this recession has awoken the people of America, now that they have been awoken, politicians better take heed and do what is right, or expect their stay in office to be short.

    While I will defend Bush from the far left, that can do no better then to blame him for everything they can think of to blame him for, I can't in all fairness blame Obama for everything this country is going through at this time either. Do I agree with his policies . not at all.... has he improved anything in my opinion no he hasn't, people agree and are sending him messages left and right, and he isn't listening. If he continues not to listen, they will send him one final message at the end of 2012. All that aside, we are were we are because both parties failed miserably.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Are you advocating that President Obama give up his principles to pander to the Jewish vote?
    Principles? Where has this President shown hw has principles?

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No. First off, it's digging through years of stuff to get to. How far back does the database on posts go? Secondly, not everything I say is said exclusively on DP. If posts from a few years ago are still around, you are more than free to search them.
    I see. You covered your bases very well. Got it.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    Damn Conservative, you're a hard guy to stay behind. I'm conservative too, but this didn't just happen from 2007 the build up to this has been coming for decades, and it included Democrats and Republicans. They (from both parties) can say they didn't see this coming, but that is admitting their shortcomings and short sightedness. Seeing how those elected officials are suppose to be our brightest and best, it speaks loudly how they aren't concerned with the state of this country near as much as they are with their own well being.

    Yes nothing was done since 2007 to prevent the fall, and that was the Democrats fault just as much as Bush's …. damn I don't know about you, but I just can't believe that with all the information our government gets monthly on such matters, that no one seen it coming. What is apparent is that if they did, they sure didn't take any action to stop, slow, or even attempt to make it less drastic then it ended up becoming.

    Where you and I differ on things is where to place the blame, it belongs to both parties, we aren't 15 trillion dollars in debt because of Obama, or because of Bush, our government has consistently out spent what it has taken in for decades.

    So while we made wholesale changes in 2006 and 2008 those changes were made because of the direction this country was moving in. People have seen that those changes have only increased those very same problems, thus you had the 2010 elections, and in My opinion you are going to see whole sale changes again in 2012.

    One thing is sure, we have seen no fiscally conservative, in either party for a long time... but IMO we are moving in that direction, this recession has awoken the people of America, now that they have been awoken, politicians better take heed and do what is right, or expect their stay in office to be short.

    While I will defend Bush from the far left, that can do no better then to blame him for everything they can think of to blame him for, I can't in all fairness blame Obama for everything this country is going through at this time either. Do I agree with his policies …. not at all.... has he improved anything … in my opinion no he hasn't, people agree and are sending him messages left and right, and he isn't listening. If he continues not to listen, they will send him one final message at the end of 2012. All that aside, we are were we are because both parties failed miserably.
    I was asked the question as to what the Republicans have done since 2007 thus the answer and my answer stands

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    What are you talking about? You "remember people saying that you can't act against the sitting president?" Really? Can you provide a source for those comments?
    Those arguements were made concerning the war....nothing else though.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Principles? Where has this President shown hw has principles?
    Now! Now! He has principles. You probably just disagree with him. He has remained steadfast as a tax and spend liberal. He has remained steadfast as less than fully supportive of Israel. He has remained steadfast as one who apologizes for the U.S.

    Again, he has lots of principles. I disagree with his principles, but he has them.

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    I see. You covered your bases very well. Got it.
    I don't know what you want. Even if you look at the last page in breaking news, the threads are from 2010; not exactly during Obama's first Presidential run. My own "find recent posts", only goes to 19 pages and that takes me to July of this year. I had said it at the time though, I never trusted Obama and expected him to be just like Bush, and for the most part I was right.
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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Those arguements were made concerning the war....nothing else though.
    Oh, well, every President has issues where some people disagree. Whoop-dee-doo!

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    While the true believers cling to the "Barrack the magic Negro" savior of the universe hype, more and more people (including democrats that voted for him) recognize that not only is he not sitting on the magic fix the economy button, but that he is so clueless he wouldnt recognize it if it was rigid, 8" long, and he was sitting on it.

    now I don't care who you are .... . that's funny .. . LOL

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    Re: Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Tea partiers don't do those things either. They just want their taxes (and no one else's) taxes lowered, but their benefits (and no one else's) protected. And to keep gays and atheists from being full citizens. They love Christianity as a label, without actually being Christ-like.
    They throw kittens off of bridges also. You forgot that one.

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